InSlaveryToChrist
Puritan Board Junior
To express my thoughts more clearly, my understanding is that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit joined together in one and the same substance are "God." Does this change anything?
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To express my thoughts more clearly, my understanding is that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit joined together in one and the same substance are "God." Does this change anything?
To express my thoughts more clearly, my understanding is that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit joined together in one and the same substance are "God." Does this change anything?
Are you suggesting that the three Persons are like three parts which make up the whole?
All the Persons are directly linked to their substance.
All the Persons are directly linked to their substance.
I am lost as to what you could mean by this statement. How is a person "linked" to his substance when the substance is what he is? In the Christian faith it is confessed that the Father is God, the Son is God, the Holy Ghost is God, and these three are one God. This is the doctrine of the Trinity. Is this something that you affirm?
I do affirm that. The "link" that I'm talking about is the "link" in the diagram which is commonly used to visualize the Trinity. By saying a person of the Trinity is "linked" to His substance, I'm not saying the link is a medium between the two that unites them to each other. I'm simply distinguishing them from each other, not separating which would result in parts in God. The "link" is meant to clarify just that.
I do affirm that. The "link" that I'm talking about is the "link" in the diagram which is commonly used to visualize the Trinity. By saying a person of the Trinity is "linked" to His substance, I'm not saying the link is a medium between the two that unites them to each other. I'm simply distinguishing them from each other, not separating which would result in parts in God. The "link" is meant to clarify just that.
Say there were a diagram that showed all human persons with lines connecting to the word "human." The persons are different from each other, but they are all human. It would be odd to say that an individual person is "linked" to "human." It's what they are, not what they are linked to.
I do affirm that. The "link" that I'm talking about is the "link" in the diagram which is commonly used to visualize the Trinity. By saying a person of the Trinity is "linked" to His substance, I'm not saying the link is a medium between the two that unites them to each other. I'm simply distinguishing them from each other, not separating which would result in parts in God. The "link" is meant to clarify just that.
Say there were a diagram that showed all human persons with lines connecting to the word "human." The persons are different from each other, but they are all human. It would be odd to say that an individual person is "linked" to "human." It's what they are, not what they are linked to.
Oh! I think I see my problem now. It has been my understanding that "God" in the middle of the diagram means only His substance and not both His substance and persons. But this still leaves me with the same problem that I've presented above concerning the statement that one person of the Trinity is "God." I obviously don't understand the meaning of the word "is" there.
I think it is odd that the Bible can speak of God as both "Him" and "Them." In the Genesis 1:26 God said (in plural) "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness," and in Genesis 3:22 God said, ""Behold, the man has become like one of us in knowing good and evil." So, if "they" refers to the three persons of the Trinity, then who (not what) does "He" refer to? Is it the Father? Or is it a reference to the name of God ("I am that I am")?
I do affirm that.
I do affirm that.
There is a mystery here which goes beyond our understanding. We can explain it to a certain extent but there comes a point where we are to stand in awe of the incomprehensible God. We must swim around the shoreline of revelation. If we attempt to go out into the depths the tide might carry us out to sea.