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I have no time to read his book.
this means women deaconnesses, but only male elders
That's been my understanding of the planned result since they started. Their goals - For now.
Anything other than retaining male officers only gives the liberal rot a victory. What is the status of the kill the committee overtures?
But such are our 'Rules'. If you wanted to dismiss an entire permanent committee of the General Assembly, the overture would go to that permanent committee for recommendation.
Now that is discouraging.
Now that is discouraging.
Permanent status of being in the PCA. But as Andrew indicated the PCA has been on this Titanic trajectory for a long time.
The PCA will have women deacons soon, this is just a stepping stone to the real goal of women Elders. If you survey/search PCA web sites you will see that women already hold STAFF/paid positions and are already doing the work that only elders should do. The downgrade began long ago, may God send revival soon.
There are already churches that have women deacons contrary to the government of the church.
If I may ask where do most PCA pastors come from seminary wise?
As a newcomer to both the PCA and the PB, I recognize that I don't know everything about either, but even so I felt compelled to respond to this thread as not only disheartening for its pessimism, but in danger of drifting into slander/bearing false witness.
It may be a new show for you, but it is a re-run for those of us who have been around long enough to have seen the PCUS in the 1960s.
One of the big reasons why I have pursued entry into the PCA is that - as far as I understand it - there are structures in place that can be used to prevent the sort of "Titanic trajectory" from coming to fruition.
I don't have any hard numbers, but the Reformeds should lead (Jackson, Orlando, Charlotte, fill in the blank). Covenant may be second, with the Westminsters third. Shrinking pool from the PCUS/PCUSA seminaries; probably as many from Dispensational and Baptist seminaries as from conservative presbyterian ones.
Without any doubt, Covenant Seminary is putting more men into the PCA every year as ministers than any other seminary. I may even be tempted to say CTS vs all others combined.
I am afraid to ask...almost. Is this good or bad so far as this thread is concerned?
Without any doubt, Covenant Seminary is putting more men into the PCA every year as ministers than any other seminary. I may even be tempted to say CTS vs all others combined.
I predict women deacons will get passed in some form within the next 3-5 years.