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My dispensational friend who knows I’m reformed sent me a video that ‘proves the pre-trib rapture’. I watched it, and he had three main points that i thought were inadequate but honestly some of the arguments I’m not too familiar with. I wanted to post them here to see if any of you had studied or heard any of them to see if they actually have an merit. The message was, of course, based off 1 Thess. 4:13-18.
1) In v.16, Paul writes of the trumpet of God. There are two trumpets, one of God which refers exclusively to the church and the trumpet(s) of angels which applies exclusively to Israel. I’m not familiar with this concept, but I’m assuming it has to do with the trumpets of Revelation and their belief that chapter 4-19 deal only with Israel in a 7 year tribulation.
2) God’s eschatological plan as taught by Jesus in Matthew 24 and expanded upon by the NT authors follows the pattern of Jewish wedding customs and cannot deviate from them. I.e the groom snatches the bride prior to betrothal, wedding consummation lasted 7 days, etc. I’m familiar with this argument but I’ve never understood how this is a Biblical argument.
3) Paul says to encourage each other with these words (v. 18) Essentially, if the church was going to go through the tribulation, Paul would say these words are a warning not an encouragement.
Any help would be appreciated. He also made typological statements that I haven’t heard, such as as that 1) Moses was deprived of entering the promised land for breaking the typology of Christ by striking the rock a second time (when Christ was only crucified once) and that Daniel ascending to a high place prior to the fiery furnace was a type of church being raptured and Meshach, Shadrach, and Abendego being in a furnace 7x hotter signified Israel in the tribulation. Do these have merit? Thanks!
1) In v.16, Paul writes of the trumpet of God. There are two trumpets, one of God which refers exclusively to the church and the trumpet(s) of angels which applies exclusively to Israel. I’m not familiar with this concept, but I’m assuming it has to do with the trumpets of Revelation and their belief that chapter 4-19 deal only with Israel in a 7 year tribulation.
2) God’s eschatological plan as taught by Jesus in Matthew 24 and expanded upon by the NT authors follows the pattern of Jewish wedding customs and cannot deviate from them. I.e the groom snatches the bride prior to betrothal, wedding consummation lasted 7 days, etc. I’m familiar with this argument but I’ve never understood how this is a Biblical argument.
3) Paul says to encourage each other with these words (v. 18) Essentially, if the church was going to go through the tribulation, Paul would say these words are a warning not an encouragement.
Any help would be appreciated. He also made typological statements that I haven’t heard, such as as that 1) Moses was deprived of entering the promised land for breaking the typology of Christ by striking the rock a second time (when Christ was only crucified once) and that Daniel ascending to a high place prior to the fiery furnace was a type of church being raptured and Meshach, Shadrach, and Abendego being in a furnace 7x hotter signified Israel in the tribulation. Do these have merit? Thanks!