Contemporary Christian Music?

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Some Switchfoot, Derek Webb, Caedmon's Call . . . and a few others, but those are often limited to just a song or two (i.e. Skillet has one song that I like).
 
I don't listen to much, because most that I've heard is filled with mediocre musicianship and shallow songwriting.
 
I don't listen to much, because most that I've heard is filled with mediocre musicianship and shallow songwriting.
As somber as your posts sound lately, you could benefit by listening to some uplifting music of some sort off and on throughout the day. That's your call figuring it all out.
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Extol are one of the better bands out there that I listen to, Undeceived was pretty much the perfect album in my books.
 
Oy Vey........

Nope, not going there again.. except to say.........


Calvin's Geneva Psalter tunes, I have read was based musically, mathematically, diatonially and notationally on the Gregorian Chants which in turn was based on the Jewish Synagogue and Temple music to hence we come to the closest possible inspired music for the Psalter... :D

Michael



All Christian music, except maybe the Psalms were contemporary at one time...and even Calvin's Geneva jigs were modern for that time. So everybody, Let' s not hate soething just because it's new....
 
What about Allison Krauss' Christian music?

I really enjoy Alison Krauss' music but I avoid her Christian music (by skipping to the next song).

If I want to listen to Christian music I will listen to Mozart's 'Requiem' or Allegri's 'Misere Mei Deus' or Tallis' 'Spem in Alium' or hearty Psalms and Hymns.

NO CCM thank you!
 
That Derek Webb guy is pretty good. There's this prog-rock guy named Neal Morse too... not really CCM though.
 
If Mozart is Christian music, then certainly he was CCM for his day!

I fail to see any cogent argument besides, I don't like it and it just don't sound holy. Sometimes the words are shallow, but so are some older hymns too.

De gustibus non disputandum est​


We have folks that will sing, "I know that Jesus lives..because he lives within my heart" but won't listen to some good words by Jars of Clay.

Trevor:

I am not going to argue with you because that is not what this thread is about. I will clarify my statements, however, by noting that I was stating an opinion not an argument.

non sequitur​
 
I enjoy contemporary Christian music, with limitations. I don't indulge in bands like Sonic Flood where their praise songs to God are rocky and shout'y. However, I don't have a 100% problem with rock music, just Whom it's directed to.

Favorites: Mercy Me, Caedmon's Call, Avalon, Jeremy Camp, & Third Day. But, just like many of my believing friends...I don't like everything about these artists' theology or approach. However, I don't doubt their heart.

Blessings to all,
 
Poimen: Fair enough. Enjoy Mozart..he is superior to CCM in many ways I do admit! (a shared opinion).

Trevor:

I shouldn't have put that non sequitur phrase in my reply. That was sarcasm and admittedly, I was (probably?) baiting you. Please forgive me.

Thanks for the graciousness of your reply.
 
All Christian music, except maybe the Psalms were contemporary at one time...and even Calvin's Geneva jigs were modern for that time. So everybody, Let' s not hate soething just because it's new....

Ok, I'll just hate "Christian contemporary"* music because it's untalented and corny performed by hacks who don't even try to mask there pathetic attempts to imitate / completely copy the world's music.

As an atheist I enjoyed mocking the sad "Christian" music scene and their shameless emulating of the world's music.

As a believer its just simply embarrassing.

Listening to some "Christian" knock-off of Nickelback makes me :barfy:. Lame contemporary Christian music's philosophy = Replace all the cuss words with Christ's words and voila...instant cash machine.


*defined by the tripe heard over all the popular FM channels in every State.
 
All Christian music, except maybe the Psalms were contemporary at one time...and even Calvin's Geneva jigs were modern for that time. So everybody, Let' s not hate soething just because it's new....

Heresy! Anything after the 18th century is trash. Trash I tell you!

(Well, except maybe Brahms on occasion. And maybe Mozart, but I wouldn't think of his music as Christian. And there's Cesar Frank, but he was a Romanist. . . .Olivier Messiaen is 20th century so he's sort of contemporary. He was a Romanist and weird to boot, but I like some of that stuff too. . .wait, Duruflé is modern and he has some good stuff. Agh! There are contemporary composers I like!) :p

I know absolutely nothing about CCM except I once read about Amy Grant on a fundamentalist website. That's how I keep up with culture.:detective:
 
I have XM radio in my car and listen to the christian channel at times between audio books when I don't want to start the next chapter yet.
 
I love CCM! You know, Sweet Comfort Band, The Resurrection Band, 2nd Chapter of Acts, Larry Norman, Phil Keagy, Michael Omatrian etc.
 
Back when I had recently become a Christian I was still listening to the rock music I grew up on but felt increasingly tired of it and wanted to listen to something more "Christian." By sheer accident (which is to say by God's Providence) I turned on a TV station that I normally didn't watch and saw some Christian music videos. I saw Steven Curtis Chapman, Delirious? Third Day, Three Crosses, Jars of Clay and many more. It was exactly what I needed.
I have to admit much of CCM is terrible, has lousy singing/lyrics but some of it is good and it weened me from rock music and nothing else could have.

I lalso like Michael Card and DC Talk.
In response to JOwen if you go to SDGB and find Discovery house music and scroll down you will find a CD entitled David Ordinary Man. It features singing by Clay Crosse, Bob Carlisle, Russ Lee, Steve Camp and Greg Long, and they sing paraphrases of the psalms. It is not great but I have found it to be enjoyable. There is also the Sons of Korah. I have not bought any of their music but I have heard a few snippets of their music and they sound interesting.
 
What? No Zombiegutz???

;)

Much of CCM stuff is terrible (and man-centered). But I agree, we shouldn't write all of it off. I'm more interested in the lyrics and correct theology than the style.
 
I love CCM! You know, Sweet Comfort Band, The Resurrection Band, 2nd Chapter of Acts, Larry Norman, Phil Keagy, Michael Omatrian etc.

I admit I was never much of a CCM fan.

Many years ago I served as a board member for our local crisis pregnancy center, and we held a benefit concert with Phil Keaggy at a large church edifice in the community.

My job was to act as “greeter” at one of the doors with the specific assignment not to let anyone into the auditorium with food or drink … no questions asked.

Just before the scheduled start time for the concert this rather short, funny looking gent in a beret comes walking toward me with a cup of something in his hand. Needless to say he was not going to get by me, and so I stopped him and politely told him that no one was allowed into the auditorium with a beverage. Turns out the funny looking gent was Phil Keaggy himself. Although I saw his picture on our advertising, I did not recognize the man standing before me as the same person. And no one had warned me that he would be entering from the back of the auditorium.

That incident didn’t help with my appreciation for CCM.
 
I'm not much of a CCM fan either, although I will on occasion hear something that I do like. But for the most part CCM just seems too generic. I have always liked Michael Card's music though.

For my casual listening enjoyment I like jazz, blues, fusion, and (some) classic rock.
 
Any CCMusician trying to "contemporize" psalms? I am getting pretty tired of the shallow lyrics...

Yes, there are some artists doing that, specifically modernizing a lot of great, old hymns. I can't recall the names offhand, but I know it is being done and I've heard some of it, and I liked it a lot. I'll check on the specifics, but someone else probably knows and will beat me to it.

As far as Psalms specifically, I don't know for sure, but I do know that John Michael Talbot has a lot of great music with lyrics that are essentially just him singing Psalms and other scriptures. Michael Card has similar things, and Keith Green's album from 20+ years ago called "Songs for the Shepherd" was excellent. Some of his songs were overly "fiery" or emotional and charismatic-ish, but that particular album is very good as are some of his others. I'm sure there are other artists with similar things as well, but I don't really keep up with much of it anymore, since I listen mainly to instrumental stuff.
 
I admit I was never much of a CCM fan.
That incident didn’t help with my appreciation for CCM.

That's a certainly humorous little anecdote about one of life's embarrassing moments, but I have to admit that it did confuse me a bit about how it had anything to do with affecting your "appreciation for CCM." :confused:
 
I listen to a lot of secular music, and in a lot of ways don't even see much if any value in attempting to make the supposed distinction. But to the extent that people do, as far as music with explicitly Christian lyrics goes, some absolute favorites of mine are Ray Boltz, Burlap to Cashmere, Caedmon's Call, Steven Curtis Chapman, John Elefante, Steve Fry, Shaun Groves, Jars of Clay, Ron David Moore, Rich Mullins, Bebo Norman, OC Supertones, Andrew Peterson, Mark Schultz, Russ Taff, Derek Webb and Paul Wilbur.
 
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