This morning i went to my home church (non-reformed),
and the guest speaker spoke about 1 Cor. 3:1
(Christains who were like carnal and babes in Christ)
and all the problems that were in that church like
drunkeness and sexual sins.
Now he said that these same christians (who were like
carnal, sexual sins, drukeness...etc) were saved,
because Paul calls them in 1:2.." those that are
santified in Christ, called saints..".
With other word,these christians were almost not
different than the world, while Jesus makes it very
clear that you shall know a true regenerated disciple
by their fruits. So how must we view santification in
relationship with the examples (if these are
regenerated believers ???) of Corinth ?
Normally we would say, that those were can't see the
fruit and boast in the sins are only outward church
members who are under the wrath of God. Ofcourse a
christian can struggle with sins, but still you can
see fruit.
Iam asking that, because in my church background, many
times they speak in what i called cheap grace (which
is no grace at all), and that when you have accept
Jesus, than you are saved and secure, and normally you
have to see the fruits, but not always as we see in
Corinth, as they say.
Can someone give me please any thoughts and helps, how to
deal with this problem, and so that i can see and
explain 1 Corinth with many abuses that have been
using in the evangelical churches.
and the guest speaker spoke about 1 Cor. 3:1
(Christains who were like carnal and babes in Christ)
and all the problems that were in that church like
drunkeness and sexual sins.
Now he said that these same christians (who were like
carnal, sexual sins, drukeness...etc) were saved,
because Paul calls them in 1:2.." those that are
santified in Christ, called saints..".
With other word,these christians were almost not
different than the world, while Jesus makes it very
clear that you shall know a true regenerated disciple
by their fruits. So how must we view santification in
relationship with the examples (if these are
regenerated believers ???) of Corinth ?
Normally we would say, that those were can't see the
fruit and boast in the sins are only outward church
members who are under the wrath of God. Ofcourse a
christian can struggle with sins, but still you can
see fruit.
Iam asking that, because in my church background, many
times they speak in what i called cheap grace (which
is no grace at all), and that when you have accept
Jesus, than you are saved and secure, and normally you
have to see the fruits, but not always as we see in
Corinth, as they say.
Can someone give me please any thoughts and helps, how to
deal with this problem, and so that i can see and
explain 1 Corinth with many abuses that have been
using in the evangelical churches.