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Before or after he hits the hootch?My dad's Lutheran pastor can put it away too.
That said, he's a realy nice guy though.
Before or after he hits the hootch?My dad's Lutheran pastor can put it away too.
That said, he's a realy nice guy though.
Actually rubrics in the Book of Common Prayer require that either he consume all of the consecrated bread & wine or he summon some of the other brothers in the congregation to join Him in consuming all the remaining consecrated elements.I remember quite vividly seeing the priest guzzle down every last drop of sacramental wine after my dad got married in an Episcopal ceremony (this was about 12 years ago). I was taken aback.
Actually rubrics in the Book of Common Prayer require that either he consume all of the consecrated bread & wine or he summon some of the other brothers in the congregation to join Him in consuming all the remaining consecrated elements.I remember quite vividly seeing the priest guzzle down every last drop of sacramental wine after my dad got married in an Episcopal ceremony (this was about 12 years ago). I was taken aback.
I understand there should be a certain way of respectfully disposing of the elements, but are they still consecrated after the Supper has been celebrated.
Any hosts not consumed are put in the, oh what IS the term?.....the box in the wall that has the sanctuary light next to it? Anyway, that's what happens to them. Plus, they're taken to those in the hospital and shut-ins. The wine is, If I recall correctly, poured down a pipe installed so that it goes directly into the ground, not a sewer.RC's have to make sure all of it is partaken (since it is 'Jesus' body/blood you know...don't want rats eating Jesus). Priest I believe usually takes this task.
Actuly we use both. And be nice.....I Tee-Total! Not for Religious reasons I am a recovering Alcoholic.When I was Anglican it was broken up and the wine was poured out to return it to the Earth. Now I am PCA.......I have no idea what we do with it?????
If you are like many PCA churches and use that sweet, horible tasting unfermented stuff called grape juice, pour it down the drain, if you use wine enjoy it, but don't let the teatotters know.
Thank you Brother, really I just do it as a matter of prudence. As a man who used to drink Scotch like it was water I am just careful. Grace and Peace.Actuly we use both. And be nice.....I Tee-Total! Not for Religious reasons I am a recovering Alcoholic.If you are like many PCA churches and use that sweet, horible tasting unfermented stuff called grape juice, pour it down the drain, if you use wine enjoy it, but don't let the teatotters know.
I understand brother. I realize that some may have an issue with wine because of their past. I was refering to those churches that make an issue with using grape juice based on some Biblical admonition. More churches are using both wine and grape juice. Some have made the argument, which I think is valid, that if someone had a problem with alcohol before their conversion, they should not fear taking wine in the Lord's Supper, because Christ has indeed changed their heart. Praise the Lord that He has delivered you from this sin.
Thank you Brother, really I just do it as a matter of prudence. As a man who used to drink Scotch like it was water I am just careful. Grace and Peace.Actuly we use both. And be nice.....I Tee-Total! Not for Religious reasons I am a recovering Alcoholic.
I understand brother. I realize that some may have an issue with wine because of their past. I was refering to those churches that make an issue with using grape juice based on some Biblical admonition. More churches are using both wine and grape juice. Some have made the argument, which I think is valid, that if someone had a problem with alcohol before their conversion, they should not fear taking wine in the Lord's Supper, because Christ has indeed changed their heart. Praise the Lord that He has delivered you from this sin.
You would also tee-total!Thank you Brother, really I just do it as a matter of prudence. As a man who used to drink Scotch like it was water I am just careful. Grace and Peace.I understand brother. I realize that some may have an issue with wine because of their past. I was refering to those churches that make an issue with using grape juice based on some Biblical admonition. More churches are using both wine and grape juice. Some have made the argument, which I think is valid, that if someone had a problem with alcohol before their conversion, they should not fear taking wine in the Lord's Supper, because Christ has indeed changed their heart. Praise the Lord that He has delivered you from this sin.
That is understandable. If I drank scotch, which I cannot stand, I would be sick.
You would also tee-total!Thank you Brother, really I just do it as a matter of prudence. As a man who used to drink Scotch like it was water I am just careful. Grace and Peace.
That is understandable. If I drank scotch, which I cannot stand, I would be sick.
Actuly we use both. And be nice.....I Tee-Total! Not for Religious reasons I am a recovering Alcoholic.If you are like many PCA churches and use that sweet, horible tasting unfermented stuff called grape juice, pour it down the drain, if you use wine enjoy it, but don't let the teatotters know.
I understand brother. I realize that some may have an issue with wine because of their past. I was refering to those churches that make an issue with using grape juice based on some Biblical admonition. More churches are using both wine and grape juice. Some have made the argument, which I think is valid, that if someone had a problem with alcohol before their conversion, they should not fear taking wine in the Lord's Supper, because Christ has indeed changed their heart. Praise the Lord that He has delivered you from this sin.
It would be close my Brother, partly there is a "why risk it" factor, to me, the emphasis is the blood of the grape as a symbol of our Lord's shed blood. My humble opinion is both pure grape juice OR wine would meet this. In short I am thankful I am in a setting where both are offered under the same blessing to the same Lord.Actuly we use both. And be nice.....I Tee-Total! Not for Religious reasons I am a recovering Alcoholic.
I understand brother. I realize that some may have an issue with wine because of their past. I was refering to those churches that make an issue with using grape juice based on some Biblical admonition. More churches are using both wine and grape juice. Some have made the argument, which I think is valid, that if someone had a problem with alcohol before their conversion, they should not fear taking wine in the Lord's Supper, because Christ has indeed changed their heart. Praise the Lord that He has delivered you from this sin.
Along those same lines, there are some who have actually made an oath to God that they would never again touch alcohol. Whether this was the right thing to do or not, I have trouble encouraging such a person to go against their oath to partake with wine.
Is this similar to your experience, etexas?