Never, Never, Never Shake a Prophetess

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"The women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak..." 1 Cor 14:16

"If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, 'Let us go after other gods,' which you have not known, 'and let us serve them,' you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. For the LORD your God is testing you, to know whether you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall walk after the LORD your God and fear him and keep his commandments and obey his voice, and you shall serve him and hold fast to him." Deut 13:1-4
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I was just showing this to my wife and noticed that not only are they using His name in vain, they are 'channeling' the Spirit. The phrases "Todd, I have chosen you..." pretty much makes her the mouthpiece for the Holy Spirit by their reckoning.

We're not only talking about imprecatory prayer, but serious lightning strikes (somehow) inside the building.

This is hard core blasphemy. We couldn't finish watching it.
 
kvanlaan said:
I was just showing this to my wife and noticed that not only are they using His name in vain, they are 'channeling' the Spirit. The phrases "Todd, I have chosen you..." pretty much makes her the mouthpiece for the Holy Spirit by their reckoning.
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"Channeling" is exactly the verb that struck me yesterday when I watched the 5 minutes of this video I could stomach. Looked to me no different than J.Z. Knight channeling Ramtha.
 
BobVigneault said:
Here's a weird one. Every time he says the name "Bob" he gets anointed. Conversely, every time I hear him say the name "Bob" I want to castrate him.
YouTube - Todd Bentley "Bobbing" for the "anointing"

This man is another clear justification for the praying of an imprecatory prayer. He is blasphemous, he causes thousands to stumble, he uses the Lord's name in vain, he does great violence to worship, he steals in God's name, he bears false witness and he is covetous. He worships angels and calls on demons. He is voluntarily in league with Satan and is an enemy of God. I pray the Lord would silence this enemy soon.
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Is this guy for real? Give me a break. My name is not Bob and I would like to castrate him :mad:
 
That sound she kept making at the beginning of her theatrics reminded me of a rattlesnake or a serpent. Hmmm. :down: :down: :down:
 
BobVigneault said:
Here's a weird one. Every time he says the name "Bob" he gets anointed. Conversely, every time I hear him say the name "Bob" I want to castrate him.
YouTube - Todd Bentley "Bobbing" for the "anointing"

This man is another clear justification for the praying of an imprecatory prayer. He is blasphemous, he causes thousands to stumble, he uses the Lord's name in vain, he does great violence to worship, he steals in God's name, he bears false witness and he is covetous. He worships angels and calls on demons. He is voluntarily in league with Satan and is an enemy of God. I pray the Lord would silence this enemy soon.
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:lol::lol::lol: Bob-Cat! You Slay me!:):):):)
 
toddpedlar said:
kvanlaan said:
I was just showing this to my wife and noticed that not only are they using His name in vain, they are 'channeling' the Spirit. The phrases "Todd, I have chosen you..." pretty much makes her the mouthpiece for the Holy Spirit by their reckoning.
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"Channeling" is exactly the verb that struck me yesterday when I watched the 5 minutes of this video I could stomach. Looked to me no different than J.Z. Knight channeling Ramtha.
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I found the resemblance rather striking also. Reminds me of pagan witch doctor rituals.
 
Someone over on HCR posted another Todd Bentley clip a while ago.

As I stated over there:

the more I study trends in church history over the past 2000 years, the more I wonder how 'this age' (1880-2040) will look to believers 1000 years from now.

You know, we look back at 325-381 (only 56 years) and it looks like a blip on the map of church history to us. 'Okay, there was a short period of time when the Arians overran much of the church. Small blip. Trinitarianism prevailed.'

But if I were LIVING back during that time, I'd probably think that the church was going straight to hell in a handbasket. 50+ years of seeing non-Trinitarians front and center could - from MY perspective - make it seem like all this 'Nicea' talk is just a big ado over nothing.

I look at all the hotmess pentecostal and charismatic movement stuff going on today and hear folk talk like 'this is how it's always been'. No... :lol: it's not how it's always been. And it probably won't be like this in another 100 years. There are always theological blips and abberations on the map of church history that flourish for a time, but eventually die out.

With the 'awakening' that seems to be happening in many communities now - where folks are abandoning 'churchianity' and the mechanations of televangelists and searching for biblical truth, we might be seeing the beginnings of it dying out.

I look at movements like Sovereign Grace Ministries and smile. They have gradually moved from being solidly in the Third Wave/Holy Laughter thing back in 93-95 to sound biblical theological instruction a little over a decade later. I look at some folk on this board and see them move from going to Joel Osteen's church to looking for real biblical instruction.

It's just a matter of time. God's doing His work.....the gates of hell and entertainment mixed with emotionalism and devoid of biblical truth will not prevail. They never do.
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DMcFadden said:
... and the ability to speak during violent shaking without a Doppler effect distortion to your enunciation?
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I could not believe she spoke just as plainly during the convulsion as before. I was literally and immediately set back in my chair! :eek:
 
Take heart saints of God in Rev 20:10

And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
 
I found the resemblance rather striking also. Reminds me of pagan witch doctor rituals.
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Yeah. I kept expecting her to bite off the head of a chicken or something. Looks like a voodoo trance.
 
There is nothing in there impressive.

There is nothing in there that is righteous.

There is nothing in there that shows "order".

There is nothing in there that indicates that this is from God.

In fact it looks like it is off a horror movie.

How can it be from God?
 
joshua said:
What irks me are Christians, even "Calvinistic" Christians, who won't just outright denounce this "revival." I just read a report from a Sovereign Grace pastor named Jesse Phillips, who went to one of the meetings. It was on Adrian Warnock's blog. It was just so soft, and easy. He seemed to be advocating a lot of caution.

Well, let me tell you something. I have no reserve calling this garbage what it is. Blasphemous, ungodly, tomfoolery.

These guys are snakes. This "revival" is wicked. The poor people sucked up into it, due to their ignorance, are deceived. So instead of using caution, how 'bout a little Holy Ghost, Righteously angered, outcry!
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Link, please, I can't find it! :gpl:
 
I am reading through all the links - found this interesting:

On the issue of excess and judging the legitimacy of the revival, Strader made the comment, ‘Todd [Bentley] and I know that not everything that’s happening here is of God. There’s a whole lot of flesh going on here as well.’ He then warned the group that if they saw anyone acting out in the flesh they would kick them out. Of course, he said, the surest sign of someone in the flesh was someone refusing to participate, writing off everything as demonic.
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joshua said:
What irks me are Christians, even "Calvinistic" Christians, who won't just outright denounce this "revival." I just read a report from a Sovereign Grace pastor named Jesse Phillips, who went to one of the meetings. It was on Adrian Warnock's blog. It was just so soft, and easy. He seemed to be advocating a lot of caution.

Well, let me tell you something. I have no reserve calling this garbage what it is. Blasphemous, ungodly, tomfoolery.

These guys are snakes. This "revival" is wicked. The poor people sucked up into it, due to their ignorance, are deceived. So instead of using caution, how 'bout a little Holy Ghost, Righteously angered, outcry!
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I concur with your assessment, it reads like there is a lot of repressed wish-fulfillment - I am not a "classical" cessationist, but this stuff is certainly not of God - much more Man-centered - which explains the attitude of expectancy - misdirected toward "generating" experience than truly "waiting for the Lord".
 
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I suppose this doesn't make us Reformed Baptists look so bad anymore :lol:

Seriously, If there was ever a time when I thought that perhaps the sign gifts still were for today, this would end it for me. This is the obvious outcome of not closing the cannon. Men are totally depraved and if left to their own devices. . . . well. This is what we get when we give just an inch outside the closed cannon door.

I actually watched the next video after this one and I had to turn it off do to the fact that my computer was in imminent danger of exploding along with myself.

I pray that God has mercy on their souls. . . . :barfy:
 
One truly sad thing about this is, non-Christians look at this and associate all Christians with this kind of behavior and decide they do not want to be one. Church has become just another place to get a good emotional high, there is not substance there.

I remember the chaps on White Horse Inn talking about the Finney revivals, which were similar to this, and stated that afterwords when it had blown over the towns it was in became really jaded to the gospel. The areas became very liberal and are still liberal today. So is that what is going to be the result of all this? Once they get to where they cannot top the thing they did last week or last year? Or the average person in the pew who is not vibrating but just sitting there will eventually get tired of this, get burned out and jaded and leave the church for good?:(
 
Question for all: When you saw this, did your heart and mind just "react" or did you sense the love of God for these people to deliver them from their error?

I was into this movement for a season. If you look in the background, there is a man with white hair and a white beard. That is Rick Joyner. (pretty sure) And I was a part of his church in Charolotte, NC for a few years. I graduated with a certificate in ministry from their "School of the Spirit" many years ago. I was a true, born again Christian in that movement, just caught in error. There are a lot of true Christians in that movement caught in error. Let us love our brethren.

One of the things that God used to save me from it was the humble attitude and love of an Independant Fundamental Baptist preacher. It wasn't his doctrine that impressed me...it was the character of Christ he showed by his reactions, words, facial expressions, et.

Calling these souls names will not help them out of what they are caught in. But if you have an opportunity, lovingly showing them Christ, by His grace, His truth will set them free as it did me. Teach them by your example, and if you have a chance, teach them Sola Scriptura.

Also to add, many of these are the very elect of God for whom Christ died. If God would give us opportunity, let us love them as such.

-RB
 
Geoff, I take the attitude that scripture takes. My heart goes out with sadness and compassion for the lost sheep that have been trapped by these people. But for the teachers, the so-called shepherds I make no apology in saying it would be better that they have a mill stone tied around their necks and thrown into the sea. May they be struck mute before they cause one more of God's children to stumble.
 
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