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What bothers you about this, Scott?
https://www.rts.edu/site/rtsnearyou/orlando/WiM/teachingwomentoteach.aspx
Yes, and it is a blessing to have such from a husband and pastor. Is there not to be bible studies lead by women for women in Reformed churches?Hi Anne,
I dunno...I guess it seems a bit odd to me as isn't it my job to (t)each my wife and family, supplanting my (T)eaching elders work on the Lord's day?
Is there not to be bible studies lead by women for women in Reformed churches?
I agree, and this is what these ladies are doing as well, saying that they will be under the authority of their church's leadership.Anne,
MY church has them. My wife attends one from time to time. I believe there is a place for women to gather and discuss God's word and feminine things that men should not be a part of. However, I believe the study should be under the oversight of the elders and there should be curriculum provided.
Oh, bless your heart, Jeri. I have learned so much from you and other very well read Reformed women.My current understanding is that women are to teach (train is the word in some translations) younger women to do all those things, and that having no warrant from Scripture to do so, women shouldn’t formally teach doctrinal things to any adult, except as pertaining to the training they’re instructed to do. That said...what am I doing debating doctrinal issues on this board? I often feel uncomfortable about it, to be honest.
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I dunno....I assume that a good majority of these woman are married.
Well, reading curriculum and discussing it amongst piers. . .
The passage that follows definitely seems to be the main thrust or the crowning achievement of their sobriety and teaching good things. I do think the good things are probably the things of v. 3.What do you take, "teachers of good things" to mean? Do you consider the passages that follow to just be a more robust definition of "good things"?
Hi Anne,
I dunno...I guess it seems a bit odd to me as isn't it my job to (t)each my wife and family, supplanting my (T)eaching elders work on the Lord's day?
What do you take, "teachers of good things" to mean? Do you consider the passages that follow to just be a more robust definition of "good things"?
Wait....you're on Facebook? Not sure which evil I want to engage first.
"Supplanting." Hmmm - Freudian slip? Heh.
Well, if you're going to make them go down to the beach to do this. . .
The context of the Titus 2 passage is primarily focused on godly behavior and good works, but there is no text-based reason for drawing a dichotomy between teaching works and teaching "sound doctrine" in general.
It makes for an awkward application. Women are to learn sound doctrine in church then apply sound doctrine at home and teach other women to apply sound doctrine, but (in this view) ONLY the stuff that pertains to managing a godly and self-controlled household, deferring everything more "theological" to the elders? I just think about what actual woman-to-woman ministry looks like when it is working well. Your theological foundations drive your actions. A woman who is training a younger woman in "godliness with contentment" for example should not feel the need to avoid the doctrine of divine providence lest she accidentally become a teacher. How are women to teach other women to follow the examples of Titus 2 without allowing them to expound on the doctrinal foundations that make them possible? If the objective is that "the word of God not be reviled" (v. 5) then are women to train woman in these works without the word of God?