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JTDyck
It is important for God's people to know the language of systematic theology. That is one of the great lessons of the Athanasian Creed where the use of a non-Biblical theological word, homoousios, was used to distinguish truth from error. Arians can not sign on to that creed and one of their arguments is that it uses a word that is not in the Bible. Theological words and definitions clarify. When the truth is clearly declared it cannot fail to address the idols of our day. A great deal of heresy can be spread by only using Bible verses, but ignoring their context.
All this must be done from the heart - not to raise eyebrows, but to convict the sinner of the truth of God's Word and his need for repentance.
All this must be done from the heart - not to raise eyebrows, but to convict the sinner of the truth of God's Word and his need for repentance.
That doesn't seem to fit completely with Biblical precedence. Of course, you are correct in *one sense*, but Wilson is addressing errors within the Reformed world that we like to ignore...un-confessional innovations borne from an emphasis on TULIP to the exclusion of other Reformed particulars that make one Reformed.
Craig, John never said that your position totally excluded ST from the pulpit. At the most what he said was that you are de-emphasizing it. You are reading into his statement. Furthermore, calling that implication asinine is more than a bit over the top rhetorically. Consider this a warning.
So I wonder if the role of a pastor is to speak the language of academic/systematic theology, or to address the idols of our day
John 6:53-56
53 So Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in yourselves. 54 "He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. 55 "For My flesh is true food, and My blood is true drink. 56 "He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him.
how does what Pastor Dyck said NOT fit with biblical precedence?
Yes, he often says things in a way that grates against familiarity. We need to be jarred out of our lethargy sometimes. However, when it comes to His own covenant people he never sets out to confuse us. He does it topurposefully saying things in a way that grates against familiarity...essentially to be confusing
And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. (Matt 13:10-12
Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. (Matt 13:13-15)
I agree that Jesus' words often appear enigmatic, even to His disciples, but that is because sin clouds our understanding. Notice the number of times the disciples come to Him and ask Him to clarify or explain. He does this for them, sometimes even with a rebuke as with the disciples on the road to Emmaus. But He is always patient to work knowledge and understanding in all those who ask. Admitting to Him that we are ignorant and asking for explanation and guidance is the beginning of wisdom.
However, when it comes to His own covenant people he never sets out to confuse us. He does it to
This is the clarity that I am contending for. May the Lord make us Calvins in this respect when we preach the Word!
I'm genuinely surprised that I'm alone on this thread. It is disheartening that men will put libel onto a board dedicated to Christian discussion without batting an eye and no one will call them out on it.
Pastor Keister, I would hope your much fairer opinion of Doug Wilson would be considered by the moderators who disagree. I would hope that concern for Christian charity and guarding our strokes on the keypad will be taken more seriously.
If the Mods are okay with members declaring that Doug Wilson preaches a false gospel (contrary to obvious statements from Wilson himself affirming the true gospel), then please make my membership an "inactive" one. I can't participate on this board in good conscience if this will be tolerated.