A glimpse into John Owen's eschatology

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  1. BayouHuguenot

    BayouHuguenot Puritan Board Doctor

    I realize we can't really call it postmillennialism or amillennialism as the terms are used today. But it's still interesting:

    Taken from Iain Murray’s The Puritan Hope, p. 38.

    John Owen, Works 8: 401 (I could be wrong. My pagination might be off).
     
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  2. Dachaser

    Dachaser Puritan Board Professor

    Did he see the church ushering that in, or the Lord Himself doing that though?
     
  3. earl40

    earl40 Puritan Board Post-Graduate

    Seems to me this can fit in either.
     
  4. TylerRay

    TylerRay Puritan Board Senior

    How do you suppose the Lord would do it, except through his Church, and how would the Church accomplish it, except by the hand of the Lord?
     
  5. jomawh

    jomawh Puritan Board Freshman

    I believe we could likely categorize Owen, like many (most?) of his contemporaries, as an historicist, which would entail the belief that the destruction of the Papacy, that Antichrist, would usher in a thousand-year golden age of peace and unprecedented gospel advance.

    One could find bits of all three of the orthodox millennialisms in these quotations.
     
  6. BayouHuguenot

    BayouHuguenot Puritan Board Doctor

    He is very clear. The Lord is returning to a world where gospel preaching has made a difference. This, however, isn't the church "forcing" it down or "ushering" it in. Though of course God uses means such as the church.
     
  7. Dachaser

    Dachaser Puritan Board Professor

    He can do that through his church, or through Himself directly at the second coming event.
     
  8. Dachaser

    Dachaser Puritan Board Professor

    So he would be labeled then as holding to a Post Mil viewpoint?
     
  9. BayouHuguenot

    BayouHuguenot Puritan Board Doctor

    It seems he leans that way. I don't want to call him a postmil, since those terms are anachronistic.
     
  10. jomawh

    jomawh Puritan Board Freshman

    Perhaps another way of looking at it is that he held to a postmillennial-esque optimism about gospel advance and the extent to which it would have an influence upon culture, government, etc.
     
  11. Dachaser

    Dachaser Puritan Board Professor

    I am still trying to understand the differences between that view, and Reconstructionism and Theonomy.
     
  12. jomawh

    jomawh Puritan Board Freshman

    My guess with regard to Owen is that he would have set the better and more glorious portion of gospel advance and its affect upon culture and government in a thousand-year golden age, typical among Puritan authors. Reconstructionism (or Theonomic Postmillennialism) would see a gradual expansion of righteousness and success for Christianity in this age but would reject the idea of a future golden age, per say.

    Theonomy itself is an anachronistic term, but Owen, in common with the Puritans and the magisterial Reformers, would have seen a place for the civil magistrate in defending the true religion and enforcing the general equity of the judicial laws of Moses.
     
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  13. Dachaser

    Dachaser Puritan Board Professor

    So Owen view would have the 1000 years be a time of there being Jesus exalted up as the Lord among all nations, earth be following Him pretty much, and then He returns?
     
  14. Ed Walsh

    Ed Walsh Puritan Board Junior

    Logos has it as page 334

    BTW - Owen's beliefs are mine also. The main page of www.reformed.org has Isaiah 60:1-12 postes
    titled: Isaiah 60:1-12 and the Future
     
  15. jomawh

    jomawh Puritan Board Freshman

    I'm fairly certain he would fall into the historicist camp, so more or less yes.
     
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