ajrock2000
Puritan Board Freshman
I was browsing the web looking for peace plan articles by rick warren, and came across this website, http://www.atruechurch.info/rickwarren.html
I read it and most of it was good except for a few minor things. I then went to the home page of this site and it reads...
This shocked me (some of the names did not). It wasn't the men listed who shocked me the most (Charles Spurgeon definitely did), it was his instant condemnation based on a theologian. So I wrote him an email.
His response:
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I read it and most of it was good except for a few minor things. I then went to the home page of this site and it reads...
If you are involved with the kind of Christianity that views the "church of Christ", or Billy Graham, or Rick Warren, or Joel Osteen, or James Dobson, or Pat Robertson, or John MacArthur, or Tony Evans, or Greg Laurie, or Charles Stanley, or Chuck Smith, or Fred Price, or J. Vernon McGee, or Charles Blake, or Chuck Swindoll, or Gene Scott, or Harold Camping (Family Radio), or John Piper, or T. D. Jakes, or David Jeremiah, or Charles Spurgeon, or Dave Hunt, or David W. Cloud, or Perry F Rockwood, or Neil Anderson, or Robert Schuller, or Jack Hayford, or Benny Hinn, or Miles McPherson, or Ray Comfort, or Chuck Colson, or C. S. Lewis, or Pope John Paul, or Hank Hanegraaff, or Paul Chappell, or any of the like (or any of the likes on "Christian" TV or radio) as godly men, you are not saved. Why? Because, you are on the broad way (Matthew 7:13; 2 Peter 2:2; 2 Timothy 4:3). You have not the characteristic of Christ's sheep (John 10:5). And, men such as these are wells without water (2 Peter 2:17).
This shocked me (some of the names did not). It wasn't the men listed who shocked me the most (Charles Spurgeon definitely did), it was his instant condemnation based on a theologian. So I wrote him an email.
I came across your website and I found it quite interesting. I was actually searching the web for a refutation of Rick Warren, and I found your article quite good on it. I then looked at your home page, and was quite shocked at what I saw. I agree that alot of them men you have listed there have much error, and many of them are definitely false prophets (unsaved). I wholeheartedly disagree with you about Charles Spurgeon. I read the article you have on there about him, and many of the things you said, I noticed when I was listening to his sermons (especially about more in heaven than hell). Charles Spurgeon's love for other people astounds me, and his great desire for people to become saved crept into his doctrine on a few points, will this send him to hell? God forbid it would! I am shocked that because of a few doctrinal differences that you would call him unsaved (and everyone who agrees with him). John Wesley, who held strong to the arminian doctrines, had a great passion for Christ, yet God did not grant him to come to grips with some of the harder truths of the Bible. Many times people holding a man-glorifying arminian gospel will have it reflect in their lives how they cater to man and hate the true God, I don't think this wasn't the case with the Wesleys (I could be wrong). If God had every true believer believe 'exactly' the same way, what point would there be to search the scriptures daily to see if they are true (as the Bereans did)? True Christians have never agreed completely on every little thing. My doctrinal beliefs are pretty much the same as yours (except for your pre-millennialism) Does that make you not saved because I don't think you have the correct beliefs on end times? God forbid! Jonathan Edwards was a post-millennialist believing in a Christianizing of the world before Christ returns. I believe this is false, but Jonathan Edwards was one of the greatest men of the grace of God. I have a few Christian friends who we differ in interpretations on various things, but their heart desires Christ and His glory. The key is that when there is a controversial doctrine, they will struggle with it. They will not just harden themselves and pass it off as not important or buck against it (this is when the true heart condition shows). I do agree that the majority of people within the the walls of the external church are unconverted and worshipping a god made after their own image (which is why rick warrens heresies are so dangerous). With all that said, I do think that it is absolutely essential to warn people and speak out on heresies (which I do), and warn people about false prophets and tell the truth. Thank you for your article.
His response:
Sad to see you are caught in the prevailing false Christianity. You are certainly headed for eternal torment (Revelation 21:8), because, unlike Paul who curses any and all who preach another gospel (Galatians 1:8-9), you bless them and call them saved (Wesley). You do not know the "way of truth" (2 Peter 2:2; John 14:6).
"My doctrinal beliefs are pretty much the same as yours"
No where near.
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