Humbled_Calvinist
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Can anyone here tell me where I could find information on how to answer those who are into Roman Catholicism? I'm in another board where I am trying to dialog with an Rc but I don't really know how to answer him as I would like to.
Here's an example:
Me: What is the ground our Salvation rest upon? Justification by Faith Alone in Christ Alone to the Glory of God Alone.
But what does the Church of Rome say?
The Council of Trent: "Whoever shall affirm that men are justified solely by the imputation of the righteousness of Christ, or the remission of sin to the exclusion of grace and charity, which is shed abroad in their hearts, and inheres in them; or that the grace by which we are justified is only the favour of God; let him be accursed."
The Church of Roman declares those who believe that they are saved by the vicarious atonement of Christ alone are anathema, cursed.
That is contrary to the Word of God.
Romans 5:9
Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God's wrath through him!
Titus 3:7
so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life.
1 Corinthians 6:11
And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
RC: Your post shows how to properly misqoute the Church and misunderstand her true teaching.
From the CCC
1996 Our justification comes from the grace of God. Grace is favor, the free and undeserved help that God gives us to respond to his call to become children of God, adoptive sons, partakers of the divine nature and of eternal life.[46]
Also I think John Pacheco puts it wonderfully;
"Justification is by faith. But the faith that St. Paul, and the other inspired writers of the bible meant is certainly not one of "˜faith alone"(tm). It is much, much more than that. Faith alone is a presumption of God"(tm)s mercy. Justification is by believing in Jesus Christ and obeying His commandments. That means taking up our daily crosses and suffering with Him. It is not the "˜health and wealth"(tm) gospel; it is not "˜trusting in Jesus"(tm) alone; it is not being saved irrevocably. It is the hardship gospel, it is trusting in and doing what Jesus said to do; it is a conditional salvation based on our love for Him."
What am I doing wrong and how can I correct it? I would apprciate any info as I never debated a Roman catholic before and I don't want to get it wrong. Blessings.
Tom
Here's an example:
Me: What is the ground our Salvation rest upon? Justification by Faith Alone in Christ Alone to the Glory of God Alone.
But what does the Church of Rome say?
The Council of Trent: "Whoever shall affirm that men are justified solely by the imputation of the righteousness of Christ, or the remission of sin to the exclusion of grace and charity, which is shed abroad in their hearts, and inheres in them; or that the grace by which we are justified is only the favour of God; let him be accursed."
The Church of Roman declares those who believe that they are saved by the vicarious atonement of Christ alone are anathema, cursed.
That is contrary to the Word of God.
Romans 5:9
Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God's wrath through him!
Titus 3:7
so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life.
1 Corinthians 6:11
And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
RC: Your post shows how to properly misqoute the Church and misunderstand her true teaching.
From the CCC
1996 Our justification comes from the grace of God. Grace is favor, the free and undeserved help that God gives us to respond to his call to become children of God, adoptive sons, partakers of the divine nature and of eternal life.[46]
Also I think John Pacheco puts it wonderfully;
"Justification is by faith. But the faith that St. Paul, and the other inspired writers of the bible meant is certainly not one of "˜faith alone"(tm). It is much, much more than that. Faith alone is a presumption of God"(tm)s mercy. Justification is by believing in Jesus Christ and obeying His commandments. That means taking up our daily crosses and suffering with Him. It is not the "˜health and wealth"(tm) gospel; it is not "˜trusting in Jesus"(tm) alone; it is not being saved irrevocably. It is the hardship gospel, it is trusting in and doing what Jesus said to do; it is a conditional salvation based on our love for Him."
What am I doing wrong and how can I correct it? I would apprciate any info as I never debated a Roman catholic before and I don't want to get it wrong. Blessings.
Tom