Featured Answers by the Associate Presbytery to Mr. Nairn's Reasons of Dissent

Discussion in 'Church History' started by TheOldCourse, Feb 11, 2018.

  1. TheOldCourse

    TheOldCourse Puritan Board Freshman

    Does anyone know where I may find this text? The full title was

    Answers by the Associate Presbytery, to reasons of dissent, given in to the said Presbytery, at Stirling, December 23, 1742; as also, the Representation and Petition dictated to their Clerk, and Reasons of Dissent and Secession, given in to them at Edinburgh, February 3. 1743; by the Reverend Mr. Thomas Nairn, Minister of the Gospel at Abbotshall. Together with a declaration and defence of the Associate Presbytery's principles anent the present civil government

    It was a vindication of the Seceders' position on civil government against the criticisms leveled against it by a Seceder minister (Nairn) who left to join the Cameronians. It looks like Stanford has an electronic copy but it's membership gated and I don't see it on EEBO or Archive.org.
     
  2. NaphtaliPress

    NaphtaliPress Administrator Staff Member

    Some of it is summed or cited here but you likely found that searching.
     
  3. TheOldCourse

    TheOldCourse Puritan Board Freshman

    Yep, I did see that. Thanks for finding and suggesting it, though! The Seceders' desire to renew the National Covenant while recognizing the changed political situation is an interesting point in Presbyterian history and I was hoping to read more of the primary source material.
     
  4. NaphtaliPress

    NaphtaliPress Administrator Staff Member

  5. TheOldCourse

    TheOldCourse Puritan Board Freshman

    Thank you, I did not see that one previously and had not been familiar with that dissertation. I may purchase it on a common day as it looks very interesting.
     
  6. Reformed Covenanter

    Reformed Covenanter Puritan Board Doctor

    It may be available on ECCO. PM me your e-mail address, and I will see what I can do fo you.
     
  7. TylerRay

    TylerRay Puritan Board Junior

    You'll find what you're looking for on page 209 of this pdf (it's page 257 of the actual document).
    You'll find this page interesting. You'll find several articles arguing that the principles sworn to in the covenants are still binding on the Scottish church, while the change in political circumstances has loosed the Scots to the letter of the covenants. You'll find these sorts of arguments from both a Seceder and a Free Church perspective. It's where I got the pdf I just linked to from.
     
  8. TheOldCourse

    TheOldCourse Puritan Board Freshman

    Good stuff, thank you. I had actually checked Travis's website briefly and read his own defense some time ago but somehow missed that.
     
  9. TylerRay

    TylerRay Puritan Board Junior

    The entirety of that work by Gib actually looks really interesting. I wish I had it in print. I hate reading electronic books.
     
  10. Reformed Covenanter

    Reformed Covenanter Puritan Board Doctor

    You need to learn how to read stuff on a computer (either online or in PDFs) in order to save shelf-space and money. One way to do so is to narrow the browser/document so that instead of being the size of the full-screen it is the size of a page of a readable book. On archive.org it is not really necessary to do so if you are reading something in two-page view, but for Google books and other venues, you need to narrow the browser so that it is not much bigger than one page of a book.
     
  11. TylerRay

    TylerRay Puritan Board Junior

    I know I do... My two main problems are that it hurts my eyes and that I'm curmudgeonly. If I can find a way to solve the first issue, I can try and tackle the second.
     
  12. Reformed Covenanter

    Reformed Covenanter Puritan Board Doctor

    If you find reading online line is hurting your eyes, take a break for a few seconds and then go back to it. Following the above instructions about narrowing the browser also helps to reduce eye-ache (if that is even a word).
     
  13. TheOldCourse

    TheOldCourse Puritan Board Freshman

    Likewise. I find that I have much less reading endurance for electronic facsimiles than for paper books--I have to take them in shorter segments at a sitting. I don't mind reading properly formatted books on my Kindle Paperwhite but scanned pdfs don't work particularly well on it. Perhaps I should invest in a tablet at some point here to make it easier.
     
  14. TylerRay

    TylerRay Puritan Board Junior

    I should probably get one of those Paperwhites. Happily, the Gib book appears to be re-set (or whatever the proper term is) using a modern font.
     
  15. Wayne

    Wayne Tempus faciendi, Domine.

    I too have some problems with extended time in front of a screen.
    You might also try dimming the screen to whatever seems manageable.
     
  16. TheOldCourse

    TheOldCourse Puritan Board Freshman

    I highly recommend it. The design of it makes it much more like reading a book than off of a typical computer or tablet screen. No glare or eye strain issues for me and the backlight is great if you like to read in bed but have a spouse who is staunchly opposed to reading lights once she's decided it's time to sleep. The integrated dictionary and wikipedia functions are great but not always flawless when it comes to old English or Scots. I'm going to try exporting Gib's book to Kindle and see how it works. Hopefully the modern type-set will yield a good result.
     

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