Antidote to reductionist "gospel driven" rhetoric in sanctification

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  1. mvdm

    mvdm Puritan Board Junior

  2. whirlingmerc

    whirlingmerc Puritan Board Sophomore

    The reductionism might be in the heart of the listener as well. I did like allot about the "Jesus plus nothing equals everything" approach of Tullian Tchavidian as he tried to summarize Colossians but people need to come at the issues various ways and there was another summary of Colossians by De Young that I think filled out the issue better
  3. Semper Fidelis

    Semper Fidelis 2 Timothy 2:24-25 Staff Member

    Excellent presentation. Thanks Mark.
  4. mvdm

    mvdm Puritan Board Junior

    You're welcome, Rich. It is a desperately needed message that is not being heeded in some circles.
  5. Peairtach

    Peairtach Puritan Board Doctor

    Jesus did tell us to obey His commandments, so Jesus plus nothing is still Jesus in both the "indicatives" of His Gospel and the "imperatives" of His law.

    Interestingly, Thomas recommends a book by de Young, in which he points out from Scripture the many different motivations God gives us for progressive sanctification.

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  6. Semper Fidelis

    Semper Fidelis 2 Timothy 2:24-25 Staff Member

    As Derek Thomas noted, all of us need to be reminded of the message whether we believe we are "heeding" it or not. Even when we have properly apprehended what the author of Hebrews is calling us unto, the challenge is loving holiness in our battle with indwelling sin. The battle needs to begin with me. I do find it sad that there is a tendency to downplay effort as inherently "un-Gospelly". I've come to a fresh appreciation of seeing God as a disciplinarian and not a Judge barking Law in the Old Testament.
  7. psycheives

    psycheives Puritan Board Freshman

    I fully agree that we must teach both the first use of the law and the third use of the law. It seems to me that the "gospel-driven" sanctification method is over-emphasizing the 1st use and under-emphasizing the 3rd use. And this is why DeYoung has rightly corrected Tchividjian for many years now. And DeYoung's book The Hole In Our Holiness rightly explains the hole in this "gospel-driven" sanctification method.
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