Anyone willing to help me out in translating? (English to Spanish)

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  1. lumenite

    lumenite Puritan Board Freshman

    Hello,
    I am trying to memorize some ultra-simple evangelism statements like these.
    1. All people are sinners before God.
    2. People die because of their own sins, deserving the eternal death.
    3. But Christ suffered the penalty for the sake of sinners.
    4. Therefore, repent your sins and believe in Jesus as your Lord.
    5. Then, God will forgive you and receive you into heaven.

    And I got the followings by using Google online translator.
    1. Todas las personas son pecadores ante Dios.
    2. La gente muere a causa del pecado.
    3. Pero Cristo sufrió la pena por los pecadores.
    4. Por lo tanto, arrepiéntete de tus pecados y cree en Jesús como tu Señor.
    5. Entonces, Dios te perdonará y te recibirá en el cielo.

    Would you correct these?

    One more. Which Spanish version is the most popular? Is there anything like ESV or KJV?
    Thank you in advance.
     
  2. Ask Mr. Religion

    Ask Mr. Religion Flatly Unflappable

    My Spanish is not what it used to be, especially given I was educated in the language using the more formal Castilian in the 1960's, which would likely come off as quite uppity to the average Spanish speaker. At least that is what they tell me when I use it from time to time. When in Basic Training in the Army, once it was known I could speak "Spanish"—as it were—they made me a platoon leader of a group of men from Mexico and Puerto Rico. Neither group could understand one another completely, and my "high and mighty" academic Spanish just irritated them all.

    I am sure one of our native speakers will be able to respond. One of our members, @py3ak, has a Spanish based ministry, http://ebenezerreformed.org/, that could be useful for you, too.

    In the meantime, some of these resources in Spanish are free:
    https://www.ligonier.org/store/collection/spanish-resources/

    A Spanish-English ESV version:
    https://www.crossway.org/bibles/ESV-spanishenglish-parallel-bible-tpb/

    I have been told that the Reina-Valera translation "reads" much like the ESV.

    Ligonier's RSB for Spanish speakers is still in the works. Coming soon.
    Of course, MacArthur's Study Bible is available in Spanish.

    A simple tract:
    http://www.fellowshiptractleague.org/tract_pdf/spanish/4230.pdf
     
  3. Afterthought

    Afterthought Puritan Board Junior

  4. py3ak

    py3ak They're stalling and plotting against me Staff Member

    Not bad for an online translator, although one phrase seems to have dropped out altogether. Changes in bold.

    Although on #4 you might do better to say Jesucristo since "Jesús" is a fairly common name.
     
  5. timfost

    timfost Puritan Board Junior

    I took four semesters of Spanish in college. I read that the RV and NKJV compared nicely and you can buy a bilingual Bible with both of these translations. From my perspective, they compared nicely, though I'm not fluent in Spanish. These Bibles are easy to get on Amazon.
     
  6. lumenite

    lumenite Puritan Board Freshman

    Thank you for your recommendation of a solid church that has Spanish ministry. It is wonderful that Dr. Sproul's Critical Question Series are provided in Spanish as well.
     
  7. lumenite

    lumenite Puritan Board Freshman

  8. lumenite

    lumenite Puritan Board Freshman

    Wonderful corrections and suggestions! I appreciate your input!
     
  9. lumenite

    lumenite Puritan Board Freshman

    Being very grateful that there are some Android Apps for Spanish Bible for free, I would like to learn Spanish.
     
  10. hammondjones

    hammondjones Puritan Board Sophomore

    Best bet for reformed materials in Spanish: https://www.farodegracia.org/

    As for the RV 1960... we'll, that will depend on your audience. The only time I ever heard vosotros in South America was from an RV in the pulpit. It is just not how people talk. Is that a barrier, I don't know. As a perhaps extreme example, I have known native Spanish speakers to be legitimately unaware that the vosotros even exists. The NVI goes over a little easier in my, admittedly, limited experience.
     
  11. ZackF

    ZackF Puritan Board Graduate

    I was reminded of this thread as a response to my prayer request.

    I just finished another session with my instructor(Carlos) and he suggested RV1960. We'll be taking on a 'capitulo' of my choice next session. I've read the RV1960 is highly respected in the Spanish speaking world. It uses the 'vosotros' (informal 2nd person plural) that many Latinos understand but don't use. I've seen a Mexican woman at church carrying that version.

    I'm not an expert and these are generalizations but from what I've gathered Spanish is most informally used in Spain with Colombia being the most formal. From my studies of the Spanish language I find Colombian protocols the most confusing. It is not unusual for people to go years without ever using familiar 2nd person singular (tu or vos) forms of speech with each other. Sometimes children even use 'usted' with their parents. It's a big deal to 'tutear' in many parts of Colombia even between couples who've been dating for months. Sometimes 'tu' isn't used at all especially between men. 'Vos' in the south of Colombia is a kind of middle ground between 'tu' and 'usted'. Using 'tu' with a gym buddy in Bogota will getting him second guessing your sexuality.

    The more I study the language though the more I love it.
     
    Last edited: May 19, 2018
  12. ZackF

    ZackF Puritan Board Graduate

    Cool! I'll be tracking down his Spanish language sermons then.
     
  13. py3ak

    py3ak They're stalling and plotting against me Staff Member

    Colombia does have the reputation of being very formal. Years ago, people there would sometimes address my dad as "Su Merced" in order to show even more respect.
     
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