BaptistCanuk
Puritan Board Sophomore
Originally posted by Paul manata
This is getting old and boring.
[Edited on 5-3-2006 by BaptistCanuk]
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Originally posted by Paul manata
This is getting old and boring.
Originally posted by Paul manata
No, I think I can prove that if one believes that the Father draws everyone then one believes universalism. That's it.
You have not proven that the believing is the necessary condition to the drawing.
All you did, again, is simply assert.
This is getting old and boring.
If you want to use many verses, do so.
Show that belief is a necessary condition to being drawn.
"And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day."
The Father gives the son a group of people. All those given will believe. If you're not given you won't believe. Believing on Jesus is coming to Jesus. We know that NO ONE can come to Jesus UNLESS the father draws him.
p unless q is properly translated:
~q --> p.
That is, if the father does not draw, then no one can come.
The drawing is *necessary* to the coming (believing).
QED.