I was listening to a MP3 by Dr. Clark entitled "What is Baptism and What Does it Do?". I came across something that caught my attention while he was talking about the baptism in Romans 6. Here it is:
So, if I'm understanding Dr. Clark correctly, he's saying that the baptism referred to in Romans 6 does not accomplish or achieve something, but simply is the language of identification.
Now I want to type out a quote from Martyn Lloyd-Jones dealing with this same passage in Romans 6. Here it is:
My first question is: Does the baptism of Romans 6 "create" union or only "signify" union?
My second question is: Is the baptism of Romans 6 referring to a "spiritual" baptism or a "water" baptism?
My third question is: If the baptism of Romans 6 is referring to water baptism, and if water baptism signifies union with Christ, doesn't that suggest that everyone who is baptized with water is signifying their union with Christ (i.e. infants)?
If I'm grasping the issue correctly, it seems to me that the baptism (union) of Romans 6 is very important to the PB/CB debate.
He (Paul) appeals to baptism as a witness of our union with Christ. It's a witness of our union with Christ! As many as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death. This is the language of identification. Baptism for Paul does not create union. It signifies and seals something that already exists.
So, if I'm understanding Dr. Clark correctly, he's saying that the baptism referred to in Romans 6 does not accomplish or achieve something, but simply is the language of identification.
Now I want to type out a quote from Martyn Lloyd-Jones dealing with this same passage in Romans 6. Here it is:
That brings us to a fifth explanation, which says that here the Apostle is teaching that baptism is the symbolic representation, or pictorial enactment of, a deeper spiritual reality, namely, our union with Christ...Paul does not say that it is a picture. Paul says that it is accomplished by or through baptism. He does not say that it is a wonderful pictorial or symbolic representation of it. He says that by or through your baptism this happened to you...Say what you like against the Sacramentarians, but they at any rate have got hold of the idea that this baptism about which the Apostle is writing does achieve something. They go very far wrong in their interpretation of the manner in which it is achieved, or what is achieved by it; but at least they can see that the baptism does something - 'through' baptism, 'by' baptism. (Romans 6, pg.33-34)
My first question is: Does the baptism of Romans 6 "create" union or only "signify" union?
My second question is: Is the baptism of Romans 6 referring to a "spiritual" baptism or a "water" baptism?
My third question is: If the baptism of Romans 6 is referring to water baptism, and if water baptism signifies union with Christ, doesn't that suggest that everyone who is baptized with water is signifying their union with Christ (i.e. infants)?
If I'm grasping the issue correctly, it seems to me that the baptism (union) of Romans 6 is very important to the PB/CB debate.