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Saw this is the Austin paper today...



Brokaw to Focus on Evangelical Movement
By FRAZIER MOORE
Associated Press TV Writer

"While attendance at traditional churches has been declining for decades," Tom Brokaw says, "the evangelical movement is growing, and it is changing the way America worships."

Consider New Life Church in Colorado Springs, Colo., which marks the Easter holiday with a full-scale staging of the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ "” with a cast and crew of 750 mostly coming from the church's membership of 11,000.

The phenomenon of such an evangelical "mega-church" is part of Brokaw's focus on "In God They Trust," a one-hour NBC News special airing 8 p.m. EDT Friday.

Brokaw notes that evangelical Christians have become a powerful force in American culture, politics and the economy, and that, propelled by their faith, they're determined to spread the word.

But he also explores why so many Americans are turning to this expression of faith, and whether some evangelicals are going too far: imposing on others their spiritual beliefs not only for personal reasons but also for political reasons.

Brokaw talks with families at New Life as well as cadets at the nearby U.S. Air Force Academy. And he interviews Ted Haggard, president of the National Association of Evangelicals (which represents 45,000 churches) and New Life's pastor.

Haggard "believes that America is entering a new period of religious intensity that will alter both souls and society," reports Brokaw.

Attempting to explain the growth of the evangelical moment, Haggard says, "It's not political "” it's authentically spiritual renewal."

But Haggard, who speaks regularly with the White House, also declares that, although Americans live in a pluralistic society, "all of us have a responsibility to advance God's will through government."

Other shows to look out for:

_ "Rome," HBO's new drama, is under way, airing 9 p.m. Sundays. But for a different view of that ancient city, check out "Rome: Engineering an Empire," a History Channel documentary that chronicles Rome's rise to power through its masterful use of engineering and labor. Many of ancient Rome's technological marvels provided the blueprint for today's modern infrastructures, and this two-hour special employs digital recreations to showcase Rome's greatest engineering feats "” including sewers, running water and heated pools, as well as the Pantheon's domed ceiling, which, from its completion in A.D. 125 until 1958, was the largest unsupported concrete span in the world. "Rome: Engineering an Empire" airs 9 p.m. Monday.

_ The modern "cop film" evolved from rogue Harry Callahan ("Dirty Harry") to maverick Axel Foley ("Beverly Hills Cop") to superhero John McClane ("Die Hard") to troubled Alonzo Harris ("Training Day"). Meanwhile, society's view of law and order was evolving, too. An AMC documentary, "Precinct Hollywood," explores the link between motion pictures and current events as it investigates the development of movie cop stereotypes. The one-hour documentary, which airs 10 p.m. Monday, features interviews with prominent filmmakers of the '70s such as William Friedkin and Martin Bregman, and actors who became synonymous with the genre. Frances McDormand narrates.

_ Nick Jr. is giving Diego, the cousin of "Dora the Explorer," his own action-adventure series. The animated preschool show "” "Go, Diego, Go!" "” spotlights 8-year-old Diego, a bilingual animal rescuer and nature expert who can also talk to animals. The series will take preschoolers on interactive journeys inspired by the environments of Latin America and by the animals that make their homes in those habitats. Debuting on Nickelodeon 8 p.m. Tuesday, it will join Nick Jr.'s regular weekday lineup at 11 a.m. Wednesday. (Building up to Tuesday's prime-time premiere of "Go, Diego, Go!" the network will air a "Dora the Explorer" marathon from 9 a.m. to 2 p.m.)

_ The Mexican and Korean children crowding Los Angeles' Hobart Boulevard Elementary School face long odds. They grow up in low-income households in a neighborhood beset by crime. Their school is underfunded and overcrowded. Even so, fifth-grade teacher Rafe Esquith leads his students through a rigorous program of English, math, geography and more: Each year, these kids perform a play by Shakespeare. This is the subject of "The Hobart Shakespeareans," a documentary that follows a year of preparation by the youngsters to stage a full-length production of "Hamlet." A presentation of "P.O.V.," it was produced and directed by Mel Stuart, the veteran documentary maker who also directed "Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory." It airs 10 p.m. Tuesday on PBS (check local listings).

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EDITOR'S NOTE "” Frazier Moore can be reached at fmoore(at)ap


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September 4, 2005 - 11:30 a.m. CDT
 
I despise it when the descriptor 'evangelical' is used so flippantly. Lately, I've been doing a lot of despisin'.
 
Originally posted by LawrenceU
I despise it when the descriptor 'evangelical' is used so flippantly. Lately, I've been doing a lot of despisin'.

The word 'evangelical' is related to the Greek word "euaggelion" (gospel) or "euaggelizomai" (to preach the gospel). To the best of my knowledge it was first applied to Lutheran merchants who came over to England bearing tracts and Bibles.

Obviously the meaning of the word has changed considerably since its inception.
 
Originally posted by LawrenceU
I despise it when the descriptor 'evangelical' is used so flippantly. Lately, I've been doing a lot of despisin'.

Your Correct ,I think they should at least use the term "Fundamentalist Conservatives".
 
Originally posted by poimen
Originally posted by LawrenceU
I despise it when the descriptor 'evangelical' is used so flippantly. Lately, I've been doing a lot of despisin'.

The word 'evangelical' is related to the Greek word "euaggelion" (gospel) or "euaggelizomai" (to preach the gospel). To the best of my knowledge it was first applied to Lutheran merchants who came over to England bearing tracts and Bibles.

Obviously the meaning of the word has changed considerably since its inception.

Please Don't Call Me an Evangelical by Dr. Matthew C. McMahon
 
Bleah :barfy:

Brokaw knows nothing....he's digging for ratings... "loud = excitement."

They never mention that the approximate "life span" of a family at a Mega church is about 2 years. There's a revolving door. People can only stand hype and commercialism for so long before they poop-out and become Roman Catholic or Eastern Orthodox.

Remember: "Jesus" sells.

:2cents:

R.
 
"Spirituality", "religious intensity" & "faith" don't necessarilly mean Christ & the Gospel. And in the mega churches I've seen, rarely does.

If persecution ever broke out the mega churches would fall quickly. The very reason they seek influence seems but another theol. of glory.

L
 
Originally posted by Robin
They never mention that the approximate "life span" of a family at a Mega church is about 2 years. There's a revolving door.
Interesting statistic. We're ya learn that?
 
Originally posted by blhowes
Originally posted by Robin
They never mention that the approximate "life span" of a family at a Mega church is about 2 years. There's a revolving door.
Interesting statistic. We're ya learn that?

"Exit Interviews" by William Hendricks

Amazon Review:

Reviewer: Marc D. (Topeka, Kansas United States)

This book should be on the bookshelf of every minister and church leader. One word of warning, the stories within will break your heart. Most books on church growth have people standing at the front door, asking why they joined. In this book, Hendricks stands at the back door, asking "Why are you leaving?"
The answers will surprise you. These are not malcontents, disgruntled people who didn't get there way and so migrate from church to church. These are all people who sincerely want to serve Christ, and find that the Church is unresponsive.
It really moves one to start listening to what people are saying within the church.
One major factor, is that many churches have left grace behind. As Hendricks points out:
"the greatest tragedy was that a system promising forgiveness to people and freedom from guilt ended up making so many of them feel guilty. That, in turn led to chronic legalism. At every turn, they staggered under massive expectations that they could never quite fulfill....
Thus grace became a theological fiction. Yet rumors of a gracious God persisted. And once people discovered what for so long they had been denied, they felt cheated and outraged and made a beeline for the exit."

Hendricks ends that section by saying "As I say, it appears the church has a lot of theological ground to reclaim."

No book other than the Bible itself has served to upend my own theology and open my eyes to something that all Christians need to remember, myself included. It is that five letter word, which many are so afraid of...GRACE.



:detective: R.
 
Originally posted by Robin
Bleah :barfy:

Brokaw knows nothing....he's digging for ratings... "loud = excitement."

They never mention that the approximate "life span" of a family at a Mega church is about 2 years. There's a revolving door. People can only stand hype and commercialism for so long before they poop-out and become Roman Catholic or Eastern Orthodox.

Remember: "Jesus" sells.

:2cents:

R.

:amen: And the lack of solid teaching at too many megachurches.....the lack of real accountability.....no sense of community......:book2: Michael Horton discussed this in one of his books.
 
Deconstructing Evangelicalism

D.G. Hart has an interesting book, Deconstructing Evangelicalism, which argues that the term "evangelical" has become meaningless. He argues for its abandonment. I am not where he is, but the book is interesting.
 
Originally posted by VirginiaHuguenot
Originally posted by poimen
Originally posted by LawrenceU
I despise it when the descriptor 'evangelical' is used so flippantly. Lately, I've been doing a lot of despisin'.

The word 'evangelical' is related to the Greek word "euaggelion" (gospel) or "euaggelizomai" (to preach the gospel). To the best of my knowledge it was first applied to Lutheran merchants who came over to England bearing tracts and Bibles.

Obviously the meaning of the word has changed considerably since its inception.

Please Don't Call Me an Evangelical by Dr. Matthew C. McMahon

:up: And a second :up: to Dr. Hart's book.

I hope I say this with as little pride as possible, but I am a Christian first, a Protestant second, Reformed third and very pleased to be all three by God's grace.
 
Originally posted by Larry Hughes
"Spirituality", "religious intensity" & "faith" don't necessarilly mean Christ & the Gospel. And in the mega churches I've seen, rarely does.

If persecution ever broke out the mega churches would fall quickly. The very reason they seek influence seems but another theol. of glory.

L

Well that is if you don't have Hinn's blessing and are not going to Promise Keepers at least two times a year...

:D
 
Originally posted by Scott
D.G. Hart has an interesting book, Deconstructing Evangelicalism, which argues that the term "evangelical" has become meaningless. He argues for its abandonment. I am not where he is, but the book is interesting.

QUICK! Hurry - Run....give it to Brokaw!! Imagine what a stir it would cause if he reported on this instead? :cool:

r.

[Edited on 9-8-2005 by Robin]
 
Originally posted by poimen
Originally posted by Larry Hughes
"Spirituality", "religious intensity" & "faith" don't necessarilly mean Christ & the Gospel. And in the mega churches I've seen, rarely does.

If persecution ever broke out the mega churches would fall quickly. The very reason they seek influence seems but another theol. of glory.

L

Well that is if you don't have Hinn's blessing and are not going to Promise Keepers at least two times a year...

:D

The word "Spirituality" really means: "I'm God and can make-up my own religion."

r.
 
Originally posted by VirginiaHuguenot
Originally posted by poimen
Originally posted by LawrenceU
I despise it when the descriptor 'evangelical' is used so flippantly. Lately, I've been doing a lot of despisin'.

The word 'evangelical' is related to the Greek word "euaggelion" (gospel) or "euaggelizomai" (to preach the gospel). To the best of my knowledge it was first applied to Lutheran merchants who came over to England bearing tracts and Bibles.

Obviously the meaning of the word has changed considerably since its inception.

Please Don't Call Me an Evangelical by Dr. Matthew C. McMahon

I couldn't have said it better myself to all of the above.:scholar:
 
Originally posted by Robin

They never mention that the approximate "life span" of a family at a Mega church is about 2 years. There's a revolving door. People can only stand hype and commercialism for so long before they poop-out and become Roman Catholic or Eastern Orthodox.
R.

Then again, Almighty God could open their eyes and they could become Reformed. After all, I attended that specific New Life Church at one time, and I am very much familiar with Ted Haggard's deceptive practices.

Praise God, He freed me from their bondage!:sing::amen:
 
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