Burroughs’ Gospel Worship?

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  1. Rutherglen1794

    Rutherglen1794 Puritan Board Sophomore

    Anyone familiar with Gospel Worship by Jeremiah Burroughs? I just started reading it.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. NaphtaliPress

    NaphtaliPress Administrator Staff Member

    Careful, he's one of those cage stage puritans who thought having holy days appointed by man over the Lord's 52 was will worship. God would have them all under the one weekly Christian Sabbath; man thinks otherwise.
    “But we have enough in Scripture for God’s own day, the Lord’s day; it is appointed by God Himself to be a day of thanksgiving for the birth, resurrection and ascension of Christ, and for the whole work of our redemption: but man, out of his pride, will have another day, and so set his post by God’s post; he thinks it is not honour enough to Christ to put the celebration of his birth, death, resurrection, ascension, all together in one day; no, he thinks it conduces more to the honour of Christ to have several days, one for his birth, another for his resurrection, and another for his ascension; whereas God hath put all into one, and would have His Son honoured by the observation of that one day” --actually from his work on Hosea; but stuff similar in Gospel Worship.​
     
  3. Rutherglen1794

    Rutherglen1794 Puritan Board Sophomore

    Am I detecting some baggage from another thread?
     
  4. Stephen L Smith

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  5. C. M. Sheffield

    C. M. Sheffield Puritan Board Junior

    Excellent. Read it slowly, prayerfully, and thoughtfully. It will reward the time and effort.
     
  6. Don Kistler

    Don Kistler Puritan Board Sophomore

    That was the first book I edited from its original format and published with Soli Deo Gloria. It was a life-changing book for me. The theme of "worship is for God, not for us" really grabbed me. R.C. Sproul said the book impacted him deeply too. It is most definitely worth reading!
     
  7. alexandermsmith

    alexandermsmith Puritan Board Freshman

    "Cage stage"? Why do we need to be careful?
     
  8. Grant Jones

    Grant Jones Puritan Board Junior

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  9. Reformed Covenanter

    Reformed Covenanter Puritan Board Doctor

    When the term cage stage is used is it not normally with the intention of criticising the attitude displayed rather than the position to which the person adheres? For instance, all of us here are "Calvinists", yet we often refer to immature Calvinists as cage stagers without that implying that we are against Calvinism. If that principle applies to Calvinists, why can it not also apply to imprudent people whose zeal against pretended holy days is not always according to knowledge? None of that is to say that we should not oppose pretended holy days, but the manner of our opposition to such things is also important.
     
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  10. Rutherglen1794

    Rutherglen1794 Puritan Board Sophomore

    Very interesting, thank you. I’m hoping God uses it to help me worship Him better.

    I don’t know what to make of Sproul’s emphasis on God's holiness and being impacted by this book, and the fact that he had a so-called picture of Jesus in his church, and considered Christmas a major holy day.
     
  11. Grant Jones

    Grant Jones Puritan Board Junior

    Does the author addressing singing? If so, what is his perspective? I have a chance to buy the book new for $10.00
     
  12. Reformed Bookworm

    Reformed Bookworm Puritan Board Sophomore

    You probably already know I am going to tell you to buy it. Throw it on with Brakel.:)
     
  13. Grant Jones

    Grant Jones Puritan Board Junior

    I must respect my budget. I must resist the precious.

    P.S. Brakel is own the way!!!! And Durham. I plan to use Durham and Douma to help me prepare my SS lessons on the 10 commandments (along with Westminster of course).
     
  14. Tom Hart

    Tom Hart Puritan Board Junior

    Buy it now.
     
  15. Reformed Bookworm

    Reformed Bookworm Puritan Board Sophomore

    I understand but my book obsession does not compute.

    Also, I have someone I would like to put you in contact with that can help answer tough questions over EP.

    Sorry to derail the thread. Carry on with the discussion over this most excellent book by Burroughs.
     
  16. Grant Jones

    Grant Jones Puritan Board Junior

    What about the singing question?
     
  17. Tom Hart

    Tom Hart Puritan Board Junior

  18. Tom Hart

    Tom Hart Puritan Board Junior

    Took you long enough!
     
  19. Tom Hart

    Tom Hart Puritan Board Junior

    I don't know. I haven't read it! I can't get it shipped here unless for an impossibly high shipping fee.

    Now I'll read it on Kindle!
     
  20. Reformed Bookworm

    Reformed Bookworm Puritan Board Sophomore

    From Gospel Worship - Sanctifying the Name of God in Prayer pg 271:

    "The second thing is to keep our hearts sensible of our continual dependence upon God, sensible how we depend upon God for whatever we are, whatever we have, whatever we do. The blessing is all from God. The beams of the sun do not depend upon the sun as we do God. If He withdraws Himself ever so little from us, we all sink down to nothing and perish forever. The soul that every day and hour is sensible of the infinite dependence it has upon God for its present and eternal state will be fit for prayer. And it should be our care to carry ourselves so that at any hour in the day, or minute in the hour, we might be fit to go to prayer." - Jeremiah Burroughs

    Yes, get it. Excuse any errors. I typed this up quickly via my phone.
     
  21. Grant Jones

    Grant Jones Puritan Board Junior

  22. Grant Jones

    Grant Jones Puritan Board Junior

    Clarifying:

    I am in practice Acapella/EP. I still like the idea of singing the 10 commandments. I digress. Sorry @E.R. CROSS for getting off topic.
     
  23. Reformed Bookworm

    Reformed Bookworm Puritan Board Sophomore

    Ahahahaha! Too long on the Puritan Board. Must get back to my precious. My precious, Puritans.
     
  24. richardnz

    richardnz Puritan Board Freshman

    The strength of Burroughs sermons in this book is their focus on the heart attitude of the worshiper. What I found a little off-putting is the first two sermons where he exposits the occasion of Nadab and Abihu’s sin and comes to the conclusion that what is not commanded is forbidden. I think the exposition of Matthew Henry is much better who comes to the conclusion that what is forbidden is forbidden is the proper conclusion to draw from this story. Burroughs is not alone in the way he exposits the passage and runs into the same kind of problems as others, trying to explain why they were offering fire, where they got it from and in so doing unintentionally undermines his point. In the end he comes to a good conclusion on what “command” means which he broadens so that it aligns well with the WCF and after this he produces a set of searching sermons on how we approach a holy God in worship. He regards the service as having three principal elements, the ministry of the word, the Lord’s Supper and the prayers which are the same three elements identified by Calvin and all the Reformers who followed. Like his Puritan brethren he is not interested in just changing the liturgy but also encouraging worshipers to make good use of the means of grace God has provided and avoiding the formalism which continually creeps in. This kind of sermon will always be needed and so it is for good reason that this book has become a classic. The sermons are long, and although they are easily read I doubt whether modern Christians could easily listen to sermons of this length.
     
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