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Bush dinner's p0rn star:
I'm a praying Christian
Mary Carey has White House aspirations, boss claims pornographers not 'freakish demons'
Posted: June 8, 2005
10:16 p.m. Eastern

By Joe Kovacs
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com


p0rn star Mary Carey excited about Flag Day dinner with President Bush

Mary Carey, the buxom p0rn star slated to dine with President Bush at a GOP fund-raiser Tuesday, says despite her racy occupation, she's still a Christian, and has her own aspirations of winning the presidency in the future.

"I read the Bible and pray every night," Carey told WorldNetDaily in an exclusive interview.

The 24-year-old actress will accompany her boss, pornographer Mark Kulkis of Kick A-- Pictures, at "The 2005 President's Dinner and Salute to Freedom," costing $2,500 a plate and hosted by the National Republican Congressional Committee.

"We're not the freakish demons people make us out to be," said Kulkis. "I'm not a creep with a coke spoon around his neck. I'm a regular guy."

But the idea of the president of the United States rubbing elbows with pornographers is shocking to some, including Rev. Don Wildmon, chairman of the American Family Association.

"The reason these people are doing this is for publicity and to embarrass Bush," Wildmon told WND. "I think the Republicans can survive this, but they need to go public with an explanation. They need to exclude them or withdraw the invitation. Just doing nothing is the worst thing they can do."

Having just received her plane ticket from Los Angeles to the nation's capital, Carey said she's excited about the possibility of speaking personally with the commander in chief.


"It would be an honor to meet him," she said. "I'd like to talk to him about issues like freedom of speech and the crackdown on the adult industry. Maybe he can give me some political pointers."

The actress says it's among her dreams eventually to become president, and that's why she's getting involved in politics now.

She previously ran for California governor among a large number of serious and not-serious candidates in the wake of the recall of Gov. Gray Davis, resulting in the election of actor Arnold Schwarzenegger. She's currently considering another bid, deciding whether to run for governor or lieutenant governor, where she says she might have a better shot at victory.

"People can relate to me," she said. "I come from a middle-class household and I'm very friendly."

Carey, whose real name is Mary Ellen Cook, says she was named after the Mary Ellen character on "The Waltons" TV show. Born in Cleveland, she was raised in Ft. Lauderdale, Fla., studied theater in college, and worked jobs in restaurants before trying stripping and then making the decision to enter the world of celluloid sex.

"I kind of wanted to be a p0rn star," she said. "I wasn't raped or abused."

With a Lutheran grandmother, Carey says she attended church regularly until the age of 12, and still considers herself a Christian in spite of her occupation.


"I probably have less sex with those guys than any college girl [typically has]. It doesn't make me less moral," she said. "I'm sure a lot of Christians have had sex before marriage. God reads my heart. I'm a good person. ... I think I have more morals than the politicians in office. I don't rob, steal, hurt, or lie "“ a lot of politicians do that."

When asked about Bible verses condemning adultery, she responded, "Bill Clinton committed adultery. [Doing] adult movies is acting, portraying a role. It's not Mary Ellen Cook, the real me."

She maintains pornographic movies don't harm anyone, and are beneficial in a way, providing safe fantasies for the "lonely" public.

Last month, the actress was among five people arrested at a new strip club in a suburb of Tacoma, Wash. All were accused of violating the local adult-cabaret ordinance, some by getting too close to customers and others "“ including Carey "“ by touching themselves in a sexual manner, according to the Associated Press.

Kulkis, 40, says he'll be representing the $10 billion p0rn industry as well as his own company at the fund-raiser. A native of Michigan, the English literature major turned pornographer says he'd be surprised, disappointed and upset if he were somehow turned away, but he doesn't expect that to happen.


Mark Kulkis

"I have good intentions," he said. "We're not out to corrupt the country. ... You can be faithful to your wife and still enjoy adult movies."

Kulkis has mixed feelings about Bush, describing himself as a fiscal conservative and social liberal. He also notes the trend of p0rnography becoming more prevalent and accepted in American society.

"Let's face it," he said. "You had [hard-core p0rn actress] Jenna Jameson's book on the New York Times best-seller list for weeks. p0rn now is pretty mainstream."

WorldNetDaily readers have a wide variety of views about the upcoming dinner:

# "The Republican tent is broad and needs to cover all people "“ even those with views and lifestyles with which we disagree." (Thomas R. Moore)

# "It hurts for self-respecting citizens to watch their leaders play the fool for influence ... Let's not let those who abuse their bodies, and our children's future, buy a voice in this administration." (K.R.)

# "Mr. Bush brings many virtues to his job. But, he refuses to lead on important moral issues. When Janet Jackson outraged Super Bowl viewers, he professed to be asleep and ducked the issue. ... [T]here is a vacuum of leadership on issues important to this country. Yes, Mr. Bush can and should speak to the issue." (David Wallace)

# "Look how far the Republican Party has come in just two decades: from Reagan's Commission on p0rnography, under then-Attorney-general Edwin Meese in 1985, to today, p0rn stars invited to a White House fund-raising gala. The leadership of the Republican Party has lost its mind." (Brian Hudgins)

# "Basically politicians are prostitutes anyway. Why should there be a problem associating with p0rn stars and entrepreneurs?" (Ken Zwick)

# "If you stop and think about it, you can see where Bush might be her hero. I can't think of anyone who has screwed more people in such a short period of time. Especially the veterans." (Fred Perry)

# "Why wouldn't they use p0rn stars at a fund-raiser? p0rn stars are about 10 steps above politicians. At least they are honest about what they do. The real question is why would the p0rn stars want to degrade themselves?" (Bob Bolton)

Average Joey: I guess this makes her a P***-Again "Christian".

[Edited on 6-9-2005 by Average Joey]
 
Ya gotta be kidding me.


Mary Carey, a devout Christian p0rn star, is going to have dinner with the frickin president.


Words cannot describe the insanity.
 
Originally posted by puritancovenanter
Can you spell REPROBATE? Self deception is running rampant.

hmm...

a tad off topic but, reprehensible as this person is, is there anything about her behavior that marks her out as REPROBATE as opposed to just unregenerate?

[Edited on 6-10-2005 by satz]
 
Originally posted by Authorised
Ya gotta be kidding me.


Mary Carey, a devout Christian <b>[Censored]</b> star, is going to have dinner with the frickin president.


Words cannot describe the insanity.

Silly me, I thought "p0rn star" and Christian were two mutually exclusive words! :barfy:
 
Originally posted by satz
Originally posted by puritancovenanter
Can you spell REPROBATE? Self deception is running rampant.

hmm...

a tad off topic but, reprehensible as this person is, is there anything about here behavior that marks her out as REPROBATE as opposed to just unregenerate?

I'm glad you made this point.

Let's not forget, folks..... 1 Cor. 6:9-11. Law comes down in verses 9 and 10, but mercy and grace come in verse 11. Being a whore-for-pay doesn't make her any worse than any other non-Christian. Let us seek to be a bit more charitable in our speech and how we look at others............ not so long ago, many of us were just as 'reprobate' as she currently is (yes, I know I meant unregenerate). Pray that God change her heart and that one day the above verse will hit her heart and penetrate it. Her own 'justification' of it smacks of supression of the knowledge of the truth of her own actions.
 
From the article:
"With a Lutheran grandmother, Carey says she attended church regularly until the age of 12, and still considers herself a Christian in spite of her occupation.

"I probably have less sex with those guys than any college girl [typically has]. It doesn't make me less moral," she said. "I'm sure a lot of Christians have had sex before marriage. God reads my heart. I'm a good person. ... I think I have more morals than the politicians in office. I don't rob, steal, hurt, or lie "“ a lot of politicians do that."
My comments:
"Oh, Lord, I am thankful I'm not like those sordid politicians! I don't rob, steal, hurt, lie......."

Does this remind anyone of something in Scripture maybe?
:D
 
"I read the Bible and pray every night,"

Yeah but has she read "The Purpose Driven Life"? Ah Ha! I bet she can't even list the Ordo Salutis.
 
Originally posted by alwaysreforming

My comments:
"Oh, Lord, I am thankful I'm not like those sordid politicians! I don't rob, steal, hurt, lie......."

Does this remind anyone of something in Scripture maybe?
:D

Two people went up into the church to pray; the one a P***star, and the other a politcian.

The P***star stood and prayed thus with herself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other people [are],like rob, steal, hurt,lie or even be as this politician is here.

I pray seven times a week, I read the bible that I possess.

And the politician, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as [his] eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
 
Originally posted by OS_X
Originally posted by satz
Originally posted by puritancovenanter
Can you spell REPROBATE? Self deception is running rampant.

hmm...

a tad off topic but, reprehensible as this person is, is there anything about here behavior that marks her out as REPROBATE as opposed to just unregenerate?

I'm glad you made this point.

Let's not forget, folks..... 1 Cor. 6:9-11. Law comes down in verses 9 and 10, but mercy and grace come in verse 11. Being a whore-for-pay doesn't make her any worse than any other non-Christian. Let us seek to be a bit more charitable in our speech and how we look at others............ not so long ago, many of us were just as 'reprobate' as she currently is (yes, I know I meant unregenerate). Pray that God change her heart and that one day the above verse will hit her heart and penetrate it. Her own 'justification' of it smacks of supression of the knowledge of the truth of her own actions.

I stand by what I said. Yes God may regenerate her. He can do as He pleases. She could be a trophy of grace but she is not just a fly by night p0rn woman. She is allowing Christ name to be attached to sin which we are not even suppose to discuss so openly. Let it not be named among you, Paul said to the Ephesians. She is prostituting our Lords word also by calling evil good.
I am not saying to be gracious. I am saying this is a little worse than bad.

She needs to be warned to flee from the wrath to come. Her Bible reading and prayer is not doing that for her obviously. She must be skipping the warning passages for Dr. Robert Schullers Positive highlighted verses.

She is mocking God with her so called testimony.

[Edited on 6-11-2005 by puritancovenanter]
 
Originally posted by puritancovenanter
Originally posted by OS_X
Originally posted by satz
Originally posted by puritancovenanter
Can you spell REPROBATE? Self deception is running rampant.

hmm...

a tad off topic but, reprehensible as this person is, is there anything about here behavior that marks her out as REPROBATE as opposed to just unregenerate?

I'm glad you made this point.

Let's not forget, folks..... 1 Cor. 6:9-11. Law comes down in verses 9 and 10, but mercy and grace come in verse 11. Being a whore-for-pay doesn't make her any worse than any other non-Christian. Let us seek to be a bit more charitable in our speech and how we look at others............ not so long ago, many of us were just as 'reprobate' as she currently is (yes, I know I meant unregenerate). Pray that God change her heart and that one day the above verse will hit her heart and penetrate it. Her own 'justification' of it smacks of supression of the knowledge of the truth of her own actions.

I stand by what I said. Yes God may regenerate her. He can do as He pleases. She could be a trophy of grace but she is not just a fly by night <b>[Censored]</b> woman. She is allowing Christ name to be attached to sin which we are not even suppose to discuss so openly. Let it not be named among you, Paul said to the Ephesians. She is prostituting our Lords word also by calling evil good.
I am not saying to be gracious. I am saying this is a little worse than bad.

She needs to be warned to flee from the wrath to come. Her Bible reading and prayer is not doing that for her obviously. She must be skipping the warning passages for Dr. Robert Schullers Positive highlighted verses.

[Edited on 6-11-2005 by puritancovenanter]

Although I do not buy into the whole objectivity of the covenant thing, this would be a classic example of a "christian" bringing herself under a more fearful form of judgment.
 
You know.... this would be one of those GREAT times for God to have somebody run into her at the local Starbucks and have one of those "Did you ever notice 1 Cor. 6:9-10" conversations.... :lol:

On the flip, flip side of this, I'm not saying you were completely wrong, Randy. In fact, nothing you've said in your last reply is wrong. I agree with it wholeheartedly. I was simply suggesting that (and I guess we take it for granted here because everyone on this board, for the most part, is like-minded) in our regular speech - including what we say on here - we NEVER forget grace. Sure, she's a whore-for-hire (wow, Kerry, THAT sounded real gracious!).... but Paul was a murderer. And David. Peter committed spiritual adultery. Paul attached the name of Yahweh to his persecution of the faith. Yet God chose to save these men. We're commanded to be gracious in our speech - don't compromise the truth (because a person like her and those listening to her ALL need to be warned to flee from the wrath to come), but don't only hold out the 'law' without showing the solution to the law's dilemma.

:2cents:
 
Kerry,

The thing that appauled me was the fact that she claimed to read and understand God's Word with prayer. Only a reprobate mind can do what she is doing in an habitual way while claiming to read, pray, and claim reconciliation with God. Paul was seeking that reconciliation believing he was obtaining it (a form of covenantal nomism I might add). David's sin was only seasonal and not as habitual and flaunting as this poor deceived woman.

It seems the Preaching in the book of Acts was merely a pointing out of sin, without the God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life speech. This young woman surely doesn't understand the Holiness of God. She looks at others sins and believes she is a good person. She needs a clarification of what sin is and does. She even believes sin is beneficial.
She maintains pornographic movies don't harm anyone, and are beneficial in a way, providing safe fantasies for the "lonely" public.
She may not be reprobate as the term indicates total release from God's care. But she is in a very very very bad place and refuses to see it. She obviously has been challenged about it or she wouldn't have responded as she did.

For Christ Crown and Covenant, Randy

P.S. Good to talk with you Kerry.

[Edited on 6-11-2005 by puritancovenanter]
 
WorldNetDaily has beat the story up... but it says a lot about the whereever the wind blows GOP of our time. From courting the so called Log Cabin Republicans to this fiasco.

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44695
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44624
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44540

But hey, I'm a southern boy-- and as such, I never expected much from the party of Lincoln anyway except corporatism, cronyism and political plunder and perks for the paper aristocracy. That they're amoral as well is no big surprise.... GOP doesn't mean God's Own Party...

http://www.bushrevealed.com/

OH the White House guest says she is a praying Christian too...
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44671
 
This raises the point that *p0rn* has become so mainstream in our society that the GOP is willing to take the heat in this instance rather than take a principled stand against a notorius sinner. *p0rn* -- in various forms -- has infiltrated our convenience stores, grocery stores, our cable TV, our newspapers, the internet, etc. and has in fact become a major part of our economy and culture. We have a cancer and Mary Carey-in-the-GOP is a visible sign that our Sodom-and-Gomorrah-like standards have sunk to an extent the New England Puritans and Pilgrims who sought to make America like a "city set upon a hill" would not have dreamed possible.
 
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