InSlaveryToChrist
Puritan Board Junior
I've been wondering from where in the Bible do we get the idea that any individual church cannot consist of ONLY elect or reprobate, but must have both.
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Isn't it wrong, then, for the preacher to proclaim to the congregation (however big it is) that sadly some of them will spend an eternity in the lake of fire?
See WLC 61-65 with the proofs.
Westminster Larger Catechism - The PuritanBoard
Isn't it wrong, then, for the preacher to proclaim to the congregation (however big it is) that sadly some of them will spend an eternity in the lake of fire?
It would be better worded to warn a congregation that just because you're showing up to church doesn't make you one of the elect, and explain salvation in totality, rather than to make a blanket statement about saying "some of you will/won't end up in the lake of fire/new heavens and new earth."
the idea that any individual church cannot consist of ONLY elect
the idea that any individual church cannot consist of ONLY ... reprobate
I've been wondering from where in the Bible do we get the idea that any individual church cannot consist of ONLY elect or reprobate, but must have both.
The initial question is poorly posed given what you want to know. The issue is that we need not emphatically affirm or deny that any in a congregation are either elect or reprobate but to call all listening to heed the Word being preached and to issue the warning to any who would shrink back. Hebrews 3-6 is an example where clear warning (and example) is given where Paul neither assumes that all are either elect or reprobate but warns of the consequences of shrinking back in disbelief. Conversion is up to the Holy Spirit.Isn't it wrong, then, for the preacher to proclaim to the congregation (however big it is) that sadly some of them will spend an eternity in the lake of fire?
I've been wondering from where in the Bible do we get the idea that any individual church cannot consist of ONLY elect or reprobate, but must have both.
I've been wondering from where in the Bible do we get the idea that any individual church cannot consist of ONLY elect or reprobate, but must have both.
The initial question is poorly posed given what you want to know.Isn't it wrong, then, for the preacher to proclaim to the congregation (however big it is) that sadly some of them will spend an eternity in the lake of fire?
The issue is that we need not emphatically affirm or deny that any in a congregation are either elect or reprobate but to call all listening to heed the Word being preached and to issue the warning to any who would shrink back. Hebrews 3-6 is an example where clear warning (and example) is given where Paul neither assumes that all are either elect or reprobate but warns of the consequences of shrinking back in disbelief. Conversion is up to the Holy Spirit.