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Originally posted by bigheavyq
the answer is 1) they are not on the same level as scripture
Originally posted by Ianterrell
As a former pentecostal (I spoke in tongues, prophesied, prayed for healing "saw" miracles), my experience has been that the Pentecostal/Charismatic/Third-Waver once they have set up their intellectual trenches will not respond to argumentation. Fred, Paul, and Chris I think your wasting your time. Ultimately the "gift-user" has too many so-called miraculous experiences, and those miracles are ear plugs.
As the scriptures tell us "Satan comes as an angel of light". The mere suggestion that their experiences could be either illusion or deception approaches blasphemy for the Charismatic. Their experiences, despite their strident denial, do act as a seperate book of God for them.
[Edited on 14-12-2004 by Ianterrell]
Originally posted by bigheavyq
I just don't believe that the prophecies today are for all christians everywhere. those messages are in scripture. the ones to day are for edification and correction of individual churches or people.
Originally posted by webmaster
Why the extra step? Honestly? The charismatic movement as a whole is the direct birth child of the existential and neo-orthodox movement. It is a shift away from theology, towards subjective interpretation. The charismatic movement has never, at any time, in any of thier denominational affiliates, dealt with that aspect of their theogy.
Bigheavyq-
The miraculous events at those intervals is really more of an observation than an argument (though it is true). But one can never continue to say "Just because" I will always be a charismatic.
Thus far, you have not exegetically interacted with anything on this thread, but have simply opinionated the ideas you hold. We should, as instructed, be able to give an answer....
Do you have anything elsewhere written? Or some other source to appeal to?
Originally posted by webmaster
Why the extra step? Honestly? The charismatic movement as a whole is the direct birth child of the existential and neo-orthodox movement. It is a shift away from theology, towards subjective interpretation. The charismatic movement has never, at any time, in any of thier denominational affiliates, dealt with that aspect of their theogy.