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Originally posted by LadyFlynt
I've been talking with a "christian goth" kid in a chat room and am curious as to how to approach her with how the two don't mix. But it all comes to appearances and I don't have much insight to the "goth subculture"...HELP, you college kids!
Originally posted by Paul manata
Most Goths don't dress immodest, weird maybe, but not really immodest. Usually they wear balck clothing with more of a pale hue as their skin tone.
Maybe she's into Gothic things like someone else is into country music and dresses like a cowboy, or something.
Originally posted by Paul manata
Well then I'm immodest! ... except for the piercings.
Anyway, most don't have big holes in their ears, that's the hippie kids who want to stretch their ears to be like African tribsmen. So, get your phases straight!
She sees smiles as fake.
I would not waste your time unless you really feel called to interact. Don't cast pearls before swine. Outward appearance is only a manifestation of what is working on the inside.
Immodesty is not really the issue with the typical gothic... they cover quite nicely. The weirdness and obsession with the occult are key. Many engage in drug use for psychedelic pleasure (they feel close to the reality of death) and disrespect for their own bodies is a major issue. Sexual weirdness is also a fancy for them (they always look towards the extreme in many if not every area of their lives).
I have known and worked with gothic people on numerous occasions. Their path leads to destruction... it's a spiritual stronghold and takes the workings of the Holy Spirit as well as the individual to overcome. Most despise Christians
I would question the sincerity of a "Gothic Christian." I am not saying gothic people can not become Christians.... the Spirit will clean-up this mess. Again, an individual´s outward appearance is a manifestation of what´s inside (yes, this is discerning the content of a book by it´s cover). Good luck in your endeavor.
Originally posted by Solo Christo
The problem is that their expression in doing so lies in a shallow pool of vanity, and yes, it assumes (at the very least) a superficial appearance of evil of which Paul warns us about (1 Thes 5:22).
Tittmann supports English Version, "œfrom every evil appearance" or "œsemblance." The context, however, does not refer to evil appearances IN OURSELVES which we ought to abstain from, but to holding ourselves aloof from every evil appearance IN OTHERS; as for instance, in the pretenders to spirit-inspired prophesyings. In many cases the Christian should not abstain from what has the semblance ("œappearance") of evil, though really good. Jesus healed on the sabbath, and ate with publicans and sinners, acts which wore the appearance of evil, but which were not to be abstained from on that account, being really good. I agree with Tittmann rather than with Bengel, whom Alford follows. The context favors this sense: However specious be the form or outward appearance of such would-be prophets and their prophesyings, hold yourselves aloof from every such form when it is evil, literally, "œHold yourselves aloof from every evil appearance" or "œform."
Appearance (εἰÌδους)
As commonly explained, abstain from everything that even looks like evil. But the word signifies form or kind. Comp. Luk_3:22; Joh_5:37, and see nearly the same phrase in Joseph. Ant. 10:3, 1. It never has the sense of semblance. Moreover, it is impossible to abstain from everything that looks like evil.
Ver. 22. "” Abstain from all appearance of evil . This verse is connected with the last, and states negatively what is there stated positively. Test the declarations of the prophets; retain the good, and reject the evil. The word translated "œappearance" has been differently rendered; it denotes form, figure, species, kind; so that the clause is to be rendered, "œAbstain from all form of evil" (R.V.), or, "œof the evil," the word being an abstract substantive. The whole exhortation is similar to that given in <451209>Romans 12:9, only there the negative statement is put first: "œAbhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good."
Once a true verdict has been reached, the practical rule must apply: "œto the good
hold on (κατÎχετε); from every form (or kind, not appearance here) of evil hold off
(ἀπÎχεσθε). Note: every form, whether the wicked and uninspired utterance concerns
doctrine or life. It is probable that this every is even broader, to be taken absolutely.
I agree with you that gothics despise fake people, but they also despise God's law.
Originally posted by Paul manata
above you spelled it as "color." I was like, "What's a dog color? Oh well, I've always wanted people to tell me I dress in dog colors, so I'll admit this." Now, I don't do the collar thing. But if I did, I would pierce it on!
Let's not confuse not having the gift with not having the responsibility. I don't think you are suggesting that.Evangelism is a gift from God that not everyone has