RamistThomist
Puritanboard Clerk
Obviously, I believe they are evil but should our response be along the lines of "That stuff is fake" or "that stuff is tapping into demonic forces?"
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I was taught if you go looking for the devil, you'll find him.
I have read quite a bit about Ouija boards. My advice is STAY FAR AWAY. I've read many stories where paranormal phenomena happen to people who use the Ouija board. Funnily enough, a friend and I were just discussing this the other day. He asked me if I'd ever heard of a particular demon people have encountered on the Ouija board (its name starts with Z but I won't type it here) and I had, several years ago. Apparently many people have come across this demon and there are supposedly records of it going back to the early 19th century (although I haven't personally verified this).
DO NOT USE A OUIJA BOARD. EVER.
It is silliness. It's huff, fluff, and balloon juice. The devil is God's devil, and the devils are God's devils, and they may only do as what is deemed fit by the Lord of Glory. No human has the ability to garner their "services," or conjure their activity. Look at the Witch of Endor's response when the Lord brought, either Samuel himself (to which I'm inclined), or an apparition of Samuel. She "cried with a loud voice." Now, if she'd truly had this ability to bring up spirits, deal with the dead, should she have been surprised or afraid? The sin of witchery and divination in Scripture is not related to "meddling with the otherworld," but rather not trusting in the only God Who is, and thinking one may circumvent His rule and authority by way of somehow speaking with the dead and doing "magic." Whatever these counterfeit diviners, wizards, astrologers, demon-possession deliverers are doing, it ain't magic, and it's not by some perceived power that fallen angels have. It seems that the "activity" of demonic forces, etc. have been relegated to distinct important times in religious history, namely when the King of His Kingdom came to establish His rule formally upon earth. All the anecdotal "evidence" in the world should never inform our understanding of "demonic activity," but only the Scriptures.
We shouldn't use a Ouija board for the same reason that we shouldn't disobey any of God's commandments. We are to worship Him only, seek Him only, and not try to usurp His appointed means in our dealings in the world.
I was taught if you go looking for the devil, you'll find him.
I think Joseph Smith used a divining rod to search for buried treasure and ended up getting a 'revelation' of a false gospel. Not seeing any value in that game other than a good example of something to avoid
Very interesting thread. If I recall, the ouija game comes packaged with instructions never to burn the game, but honestly, if one ever came into my possession that's the first thing I'd do with it.
I think Joseph Smith used a divining rod to search for buried treasure and ended up getting a 'revelation' of a false gospel. Not seeing any value in that game other than a good example of something to avoid
I know he got not such thing. To think the devil communicated something directly to Smith is superstition.
I think Joseph Smith used a divining rod to search for buried treasure and ended up getting a 'revelation' of a false gospel. Not seeing any value in that game other than a good example of something to avoid
I know he got not such thing. To think the devil communicated something directly to Smith is superstition.
I think Joseph Smith used a divining rod to search for buried treasure and ended up getting a 'revelation' of a false gospel. Not seeing any value in that game other than a good example of something to avoid
I know he got not such thing. To think the devil communicated something directly to Smith is superstition.
Whether he did or not we don't know, yes he could have made the whole thing up as he was apparently a bit of a story teller, but if people think that the Devil cannot communicate things to people or oppress, possess is basically a form of Liberalism, though I'm not saying that you are for clarity's sake.
I think Joseph Smith used a divining rod to search for buried treasure and ended up getting a 'revelation' of a false gospel. Not seeing any value in that game other than a good example of something to avoid
I know he got not such thing. To think the devil communicated something directly to Smith is superstition.
I think Joseph Smith's "vision" of God the Father and Jesus was demonic, if it really happened and he didn't just make it up. The Bible is clear that no man has seen the Father (John 6:46, 1 Timothy 6:16).
I agree it was demonic in that satan is the father of all lies. He had no vision but maybe delusions derived from his own deluded mind and I tend to think the entire story of how he received his "revelation" was simply a pure unadulterated lie. To think he (Smith) got some kind of vision is superstition.
I agree it was demonic in that satan is the father of all lies. He had no vision but maybe delusions derived from his own deluded mind and I tend to think the entire story of how he received his "revelation" was simply a pure unadulterated lie. To think he (Smith) got some kind of vision is superstition.
Earl I don't understand what you are trying to say here,
i are you saying that Satan's demonic deception consisted in Smith having mental delusions by Satanic Spiritual Agency or
ii are you equating Smiths mental delusion with Satan's demonic deception by saying they are one & the same and
thus denying Satanical Spiritual Agency as superstition?
It was not by any direct communication from the devil for this is the superstitious aspect I am speaking against which many Christians believe.
It was not by any direct communication from the devil for this is the superstitious aspect I am speaking against which many Christians believe.
So you're saying the devil did not communicate directly with Smith - how do you know this?