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  1. VirginiaHuguenot

    VirginiaHuguenot Puritanboard Librarian

    Is anyone else a fan of comics?

    I love the Stan Lee movies that come out in the last few years, but the comics upon which they are based are even better, I think.

    I have a collection of Marvel comics that spans the Silver Age. X-Men, Spider-Man, Avengers, Fantastic Four, Daredevil, Silver Surfer, Thor, Hulk, Iron Man, etc.

    My all-time favorite is the X-Men/Phoenix saga.

    For my fellow comic fans out there, what are your favorites?
  2. luvroftheWord

    luvroftheWord Puritan Board Sophomore

    Well, I'm not much of a comics fan, really, although I have enjoyed the movies that have been made in the last few years based on comics, particularly Marvel.

    I'd say Superman is my favorite comic book hero, especially since I've started watching Smallville.
  3. BayouHuguenot

    BayouHuguenot Puritanboard Amanuensis

    The first thing that I thought of when I saw this read was Calvin and Hobbes :lol:
  4. ReformedWretch

    ReformedWretch Puritan Board Doctor

    I am, but haven't collected in years. I own over 200 books.

    What happens is they take popular storie arcs and cross them over with books that aren't selling well in order to get readers to buy these books and increase sales.

    It worked for me because I like to follow all arcs. I end up spending way too much money and buying books I originally wasn't intrested in.

    Cheap trick if you ask me.
  5. fredtgreco

    fredtgreco Vanilla Westminsterian Staff Member

    I've always been fascinated by Batman. The fact that he cannot rely on superpowers is interesting.
  6. BayouHuguenot

    BayouHuguenot Puritanboard Amanuensis

    [quote:24da979669="fredtgreco"]I've always been fascinated by Batman. The fact that he cannot rely on superpowers is interesting.[/quote:24da979669]

    He is the Deistic version of superman! I am sorry. I couldn't resist that. I have been arguing with liberal "CHristians" all week who have been denying the miraculous.
  7. fredtgreco

    fredtgreco Vanilla Westminsterian Staff Member

    [quote:03652079a9="Finn McCool"][quote:03652079a9="fredtgreco"]I've always been fascinated by Batman. The fact that he cannot rely on superpowers is interesting.[/quote:03652079a9]

    He is the Deistic version of superman! I am sorry. I couldn't resist that. I have been arguing with liberal "CHristians" all week who have been denying the miraculous.[/quote:03652079a9]

    or you could say he is the "anti-Pentecostal"
  8. BayouHuguenot

    BayouHuguenot Puritanboard Amanuensis

    :lol: :lol: :lol:
  9. ReformedWretch

    ReformedWretch Puritan Board Doctor

    Batman is one of my favorites, but they use his story to do the cross overs I was talking about more than anyone.

    And the pentecostal stuff is hillarious! But who in the world is Superman then? Benny Hinn?
  10. VirginiaHuguenot

    VirginiaHuguenot Puritanboard Librarian

    Comics made the news today...

    Comic Books Donated to French Museum

    Fri Dec 31, 9:37 AM ET Entertainment - AP

    By KATE BRUMBACK, Associated Press Writer

    PARIS - Spiderman, Captain America, the Incredible Hulk and Daredevil have bounded across the Atlantic in a single leap "” a giant donation of almost 300,000 vintage comic books to a French museum.

    Jean-Pierre Mercier, who manages the collection for France's National Center for Comic Books and Images, said he was "flabbergasted" when he learned in March that Marvel Enterprises wanted to donate the huge quantity of comic books dating back as far as the 1950s.

    The gift, from one of the top U.S. comic publishers, was made through Gifts in Kind, a U.S. charity that distributes donated items.

    "Marvel specifically requested that they go overseas to a cultural institution where they would benefit numerous children and numerous people," said charity volunteer Margaret Mallon-Pujol. She said the French comic book museum was the ideal candidate.

    The museum, in the western city of Angouleme, didn't know what a superhuman task it was in for.

    Mercier said Mallon-Pujol first offered 800,000 to 1 million comic books, but he declined the offer. Such a gift would overwhelm his museum. Instead, the museum selected only what it believed to be the earliest books, including some published under Marvel's early names: Timely Comics and Atlas Comics. In June, about 275,000 books arrived in 1,800 boxes. Among them were hundreds of copies of the same editions.

    Most date from the early 1950s to the late 1970s. Mercier believes the collection represents nearly 80 percent of comic books produced by Marvel during that span.

    The comics are being sorted into five identical collections, two for the center and others for France's National Library and a museum in Amadora, Portugal, said Catherine Bourgouin, spokeswoman of the Angouleme museum. The destination of the fifth collection has not yet been determined.

    The Angouleme museum hasn't decided how it will display its colorful treasure "” although an exhibit on the glory years of Spiderman, the Hulk, the Fantastic Four and other superheroes is expected.

    For customs purposes, the collection's value was estimated at US$300,000 (euro225,000), but experts say the real value is difficult to ascertain. A mint-condition, first-edition "Spiderman" from 1963, for example, would be valued today at US$32,500 (euro24,095), said Frederic Solti, manager of the Gael comic book shop in Paris.

    Susan Corrigan, president of the Gifts in Kind charity in Alexandria, Virginia, said Marvel is one of the top donors to the organization and has given millions of comics to young people in the United States and overseas.

    "They just thought this would be an effective thing to donate worldwide," she said.

    The agreement with Gifts in Kind allows the museum to destroy duplicate copies, but it cannot barter, trade, sell or give any away.

    "We have received e-mails, phone calls and letters from fans and specialists who protest and complain about this decision, but there is no way for us to deal with that in any other way," Mercier said.

    An initial sorting, numbering and stamping of the books should be completed in 2005.

    The museum is still waiting for Marvel to send about 8,000 books "” the oldest, rarest ones "” which the publisher is scanning into its digital archives.

    Some of the most valuable include love-story comics "” designed to appeal to girls "” from the 1950s and earliest issues of the Fantastic Four, Spiderman and Captain America, among others.

    Marvel is also home to Captain Marvel, the X-Men, the Avengers, and other superheroes.

    The French museum was created in 1990 and its collection has consisted mostly of French and Belgian comics. It organizes a four-day international comic book festival each January.

    The festival this year is Jan. 27-30 and includes shows on comic books figures, young comic book artists, and the origins and future of comics.
  11. SmokingFlax

    SmokingFlax Puritan Board Sophomore

    I'm starting (little by little) to get back into comics/cartoons.

    I used to be into all the Marvel superheroes as a boy. I used to like the Conan and Tarzan type stuff too (great artwork)-I learned to draw by copying a lot of that stuff.

    I recently (in an attempt to reintroduce myself) stumbled across some drawing books by a guy named Burne Hogarth -he's absolutely AMAZING! (I should say he WAS amazing). His knowledge of the human anatomy was such that he could draw any figure in any position, however contorted and from any perspective with astounding accuracy -WITHOUT USING MODELS! He used to draw the Tarzan that appeared in the Sunday papers in the 30's and 50's (I believe). I've been slowly going through his drawing books to glean his system of anatomical's really very humbling.

    Did anyone ever enjoy MAD Magazine? I used to like all the parodies of tv shows and movies, etc. Jack Davis' humorous illustrations were awesome. I picked up a copy of MAD recently and was pretty much shocked and disappointed over how crude and salacious the humor had gotten (like their tv show)...I don't remember it being so overtly sexualized when I was younger...maybe it was but I was simply naive (???).
  12. tdowns

    tdowns Puritan Board Junior


    Man you nailed it. I have over 3000 books, love 'em. I think it is a great story telling vehicle. But I had to quite do to the same thing, all the cross-overs. I now find the solo titles, like back when McFarlane (by the way my favorite comic run of all time) was doing Spider Man. Ultimates was cool for the first few episodes. I buy one or two a month now.

    I love them all but my favorite characters by nick name are:

    The Web Slinger
    Weapon X
    Shell Head -- as referred to lovingly by the beast during his Avengers stint
    The weilder of Mjlonir
    Ol' Green skin.

    In later years I developed a liking for the Dark Knight.

    Lately I've been picking up the Marvel Age retelling of the classic stories to read with my son. They are old school; simple story, great art, not so much adult innuendo--or adult very well drawn ladies if you know what I mean--their fun, clean books designed for younger readers.

  13. VirginiaHuguenot

    VirginiaHuguenot Puritanboard Librarian

    Who's your favorite comic artist/writer?

    Mine is John Byrne...

    and Jack Kirby...

    and Frank Miller...

    and Steve Dikto...

    and Chris Claremont...

    and Stan "the Man" Lee, of course!
  14. tdowns

    tdowns Puritan Board Junior


    Byrne and McFarlane for me, other than those two, I pretty much could only identify them by the art itself, for some reason I never paid attention to the names of the guys writing and drawing. I loved McFarlane's spidey and Hulk.

    I'm going to hit the local shop tomorrow, see if there's anything interesting coming out. I like to snag the first couple of episodes of new stuff.

    Happy New Year
  15. Ivan

    Ivan Pastor

    In my younger years, mostly in the 60's, I was a huge fan of Superman. Never cared for the TV or movie depiction of him. George Reeves was too cheesy and Christopher Reeve was too 80's.

    Maybe someday there will be a good depiction. And, no, I haven't seen Smallville...yet.
  16. Jonathan

    Jonathan Puritan Board Freshman

    I prefer the humorous comics... And what could be better than Calvin and Hobbes!

  17. VirginiaHuguenot

    VirginiaHuguenot Puritanboard Librarian

    Anybody ever see the movie "Unbreakable" with Bruce Willis, Robin Wright and Samuel L. Jackson? Interesting take on comic super heroes and villains.
  18. ReformedWretch

    ReformedWretch Puritan Board Doctor

    I saw it and enjoyed it. I've found that most people either really enjoyed or really hated that movie.
  19. tdowns

    tdowns Puritan Board Junior


    I totally loved that movie, I think you needed to be in to comics to get the full affect of that film. One of my favorites.


    What about Electra?.....oh boy, I sure would like to see it, but just don't know, if it's a well done film I probably will, but if it gets bad reviews like Catwoman, I won't, no need to put myself in precarious positions--especially for a bad movie--I didn't see Catwoman.

  20. tdowns

    tdowns Puritan Board Junior

    Fantastic Four

    I also just saw the first posters for fantastic four, I hope they take that to Spider Man level and not Punisher Level.
  21. ReformedWretch

    ReformedWretch Puritan Board Doctor

    Hey, besides the topless scene I like The Punisher. in my opinion it was pretty faithful to the comic.
  22. tdowns

    tdowns Puritan Board Junior


    Yeah, I actually enjoyed it, I just thought it could have been better. Daredevil I loved as well, but not quite the level of Spider Man.

    Of course, I've never seen anything related to Comics I didn't like, even the old Cheese ball Captain America, I just loved seeing the guys in action. I'm easy that way though, I also refuse to not like a Clint Eastwood film, no matter how bad some of those 70's films were---might not watch it again, but can't say anything bad about Clint.

  23. VirginiaHuguenot

    VirginiaHuguenot Puritanboard Librarian

  24. fredtgreco

    fredtgreco Vanilla Westminsterian Staff Member

    Moving to Entertainment and Fun
  25. ReformedWretch

    ReformedWretch Puritan Board Doctor

    Took the plunge today after 12 years away from comics! Walked in the shop across the road from my appartment (hard to resist) and got my free comics on "Free Comic Day". I got some "Batman Attacks" book made just for today but also two very thick 9-11 comics staring many heros that normally sold for 9.99 each. Not bad.

    I also picked up and subscribed to;

    The Punisher
    Green Lantern
    Action Comics Superman
  26. VirginiaHuguenot

    VirginiaHuguenot Puritanboard Librarian

    Cool! :)
  27. ReformedWretch

    ReformedWretch Puritan Board Doctor

    The Punisher book is very well written, but very graphic as well. I will have to debate about staying with it. I enjoy the stories very much, but much of the content is well.....:um:
  28. VirginiaHuguenot

    VirginiaHuguenot Puritanboard Librarian

    I know what you mean. I didn't see The Punisher movie but I'm familiar with the comic. It's darker than Daredevil and of course one has to consider the theme of vigilanteism. The Punisher is not one of my favorite characters but some stories can be intriguing.
  29. ReformedWretch

    ReformedWretch Puritan Board Doctor

    To me, the comics universe is pure fiction. In it, there is good and bad, but it's pretty much up to the reader. I wouldn't allow a child of mine to read comics for this very reason, but a seasoned, grounded adult I see little to no harm in it for pure entertainment purposes.

    In that regard, the Punisher is a guy who's out to make evil people pay. He has no regard for anything other than justice, even his own self.

    I don't take lessons from comics. If I did, I would be in trouble. In a way all the heros are vigilantes. The Punisher is just that, someone who punishes.
  30. VirginiaHuguenot

    VirginiaHuguenot Puritanboard Librarian

    You're right. There is a bit of vigilante in all the superheroes -- except for Captain America and the Avengers, right? They were on the government payroll. ;)

    There is a difference between the Punisher and most other "good" superheroes though. He takes it upon himself to be judge, jury and executioner. The others tend to fight to stop a crime in progress and then if possible turn the bad guys over to the authorities and in general work inside the law although they are often misunderstood.

    I tend to analyze the comics I read on moral issues, but I don't expect them to be like characters in Pilgrim's Progress. What I like about certain superheroes is their human flaws which accompany their marvelous powers. Peter Parker/Spider-Man is a classic example. I'm most partial to the X-Men. The whole evolutionary theme is prevalent in the X-Men stories, like Star Trek, but there is much that is redeeming as well as entertaining in those stories, or else I wouldn't be reading them.

    The Phoenix saga is my favorite from the X-Men stories. I like the Silver Age in general best among Marvel comics. The Marvel Universe is amazing to behold! :)

    [Edited on 5-8-2005 by VirginiaHuguenot]
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