Dr. Bob Gonzales
Puritan Board Junior
There are several assumptions (and wrong ones, I'd submit) underlying things here.
That before the fall:
1. Things are like they are now, after the fall.
2. That plant "death" is really "death" proper.
Instead of believing Romans 5 at face value, and that it was sin that *actually* brought death into the world, we import modern things to a pre-Fallen world and draw conclusions from that. There have been multiple threads discussed about this very subject.
Joshua,
I'm not sure I follow you. Suggesting that God may have created carnivores before the fall is not equivalent to the assumption that everything in our present experience is as it was before the Fall. Granted, we can probably make a distinction between animal death and plant death. What about the death of single-cell organisms? Whales eat plankton, which includes animal microorganisms. Does a digested [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphipoda"]amphipod[/ame] count as a dead animal? What about ant-eaters? Did they originally suck up plant debris through their narrow snout? Or did God specially design that snout for ants?
Moreover, no one questions that Romans 5 is referring to human death. The context makes that abundantly clear. What is not clear--at face value--is whether Paul was including every kind of animal death in that statement. It's possible that he did. But I'm not convinced that the context necessitates that interpretation.