Did William Perkins lack assurance?

Discussion in 'Church History' started by BayouHuguenot, Nov 29, 2019.

  1. BayouHuguenot

    BayouHuguenot Puritan Board Doctor

    I came across this piece, but I don't know the context for it.

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  2. smalltown_puritan

    smalltown_puritan Puritan Board Freshman

    That would not be unheard of: ‘True believers may have the assurance of their salvation divers ways shaken, diminished, and intermitted’ (BCF 1689, XVIII.4). Such was the case also of John Bunyan, if I recall correctly, as recorded in his, ‘Grace Abounding to the Chiefest of Sinners’.
     
  3. Phil D.

    Phil D. Puritan Board Junior

    This appears to be a partial and thus mistaken citation. While Fuller reported the perception, he clearly disagreed with it.

    Chap. 10. The life of Mr. PERKINS

    ...He dyed in the 44th yeare of his age of a violent fit of the stone. It hath been reported that he dyed in the conflict of a troubled conscience; which admit were so, had been no wonder. For God sometimes seemingly leaves his Saints when they leave the world, plunging them on their death-beds in deep temptations, and casting their souls down to hell, to rebound the higher to heaven. Besides, the devil is most busie on the last day of his Term; and a Tenant to be outed cares not what mischief he doth.

    But here was no such matter
    . Indeed he alwayes cryed out Mercy Mercy: which some standers by misinterpreted for despair, as if he felt not Gods favour, because he call'd for it: whereas Mercy is a Grace which they hold the fastest, that most catch after it. 'Tis true that many on lesse reason have expressed more confidence of their future happinesse, and have delivered themselves in larger speeches concerning the same. But who could expect a long oration from him, where every word was accented with pain in so sharp a disease. [bolding mine]

    (Thomas Fuller, The Holy State, [Cambridge: Roger Daniel, 1642], pp.88, 91f)​
     
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  4. Gesetveemet

    Gesetveemet Puritan Board Freshman

    God’s people sometimes lack assurance of faith when they will be exchanging time for eternity because they feel their sins are too great nevertheless they are kept by God who always finishes the works of His own hands.
     
  5. PuritanCovenanter

    PuritanCovenanter Moderator Staff Member

    Sometimes the mind grows weak also. It can grow infirmed and is not as full as it was in its better days. But the text above from 'The Life of Mr. Perkins' puts things in a fuller light.

    Thank You Phil.
     
  6. Reformed Covenanter

    Reformed Covenanter Puritan Board Doctor

    I just ran across this excellent comment on the Reformed Anglican Fellowship Facebook page: "We need to recover [William] Perkins. A great antidote to the overhyped Richard Hooker." (Gerard Bray)

    I am sure that @NaphtaliPress approves this message. ;)
     
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  7. NaphtaliPress

    NaphtaliPress Administrator Staff Member

    :agree::agree::agree::agree::agree::agree::applause::applause::applause::applause:
     
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  8. Reformed Covenanter

    Reformed Covenanter Puritan Board Doctor

    I see that @Reformed Bookworm approve$ of this me$$age. The fact that he stocks William Perkin$ has nothing to do with it. ;)
     
  9. Reformed Bookworm

    Reformed Bookworm Puritan Board Junior

    Surely I have no bias to this message. I almost forgot to mention that volume eight of Perkins' collected works is coming soon from Reformation Heritage Books. :cool:
     
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  10. Reformed Bookworm

    Reformed Bookworm Puritan Board Junior

    As much as I have read by and about Perkins, never once have I heard mention such a claim.
     

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