Dominion, creation and angels

Discussion in 'Natural Revelation and God's Creation' started by timfost, Oct 1, 2018.

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  1. Reformed Bookworm

    Reformed Bookworm Puritan Board Sophomore

    You need to look beyond the English translations.
     
  2. Ask Mr. Religion

    Ask Mr. Religion Flatly Unflappable

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    If you want to continue this sidebar, please start another thread. This current back and forth is derailing this one.
     
  3. BayouHuguenot

    BayouHuguenot Puritan Board Doctor

    Continuing the OP, as both Jude and the Assumption of Moses teach us, if the archangel Michael was afraid to rebuke Satan, and Jude tells us not to rebuke the heavenly beings, then it stands to reason now that we don't currently have dominion over "fallen angels" (for lack of a more precise term).
     
  4. Dachaser

    Dachaser Puritan Board Professor

    So you would see the angels and the demons as not being in the same category of being than?
     
  5. Grant Jones

    Grant Jones Puritan Board Junior

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    Dachaser Puritan Board Professor

  7. BayouHuguenot

    BayouHuguenot Puritan Board Doctor

    angels may or may not be in the same category. Anggelos simply means messenger. No, what we call demons aren't in the same category. If by demon you mean "unclean spirit," as is used in the gospel.
     
  8. BayouHuguenot

    BayouHuguenot Puritan Board Doctor

    Back to earlier questions: do believers have dominion over angels/fallen angels? Let's look at it this way:

    The girl in Ephesus had a python spirit, which Paul rebuked. So he had authority over that, at least. Yet, we are warned not to revile the heavenly beings, such as Satan. So we don't have dominion over that.
     
  9. Nomos

    Nomos Puritan Board Freshman

    I think you mean Philippi, no?
     
  10. BayouHuguenot

    BayouHuguenot Puritan Board Doctor

    Yeah. I got that mixed up. I was thinking of Ephesus because of the papyri.
     
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