hammondjones
Puritan Board Junior
Vos, in a footnote in The Pauline Eschatology (pg. 29 of the P&R ed.), suggests that faith and hope are not provisional and temporary, and that both persist in the final state.
Says he, regarding faith:
and regarding hope:
Jonathan Edwards, writing on increasing eternal joy in The End for Which God Created the World, says that:
Now, I normally hear people say that only love abides forever, and that faith will not be a part of life then, since we will know even as we are known. And that since we will see him face to face, hope is also excluded, since, as Paul says, "who hopes for what he sees?"
So, then...
1. Do faith and hope have a place in the eternal state?
2. If not, can we still talk about increasing joy/knowledge of God/glory in heaven without them?
Says he, regarding faith:
The presupposition might be that, side by side with the promises fulfilled, and as such requiring no further functioning of faith, there will always be elements in the apprehension and possession of God which must remain inaccessible except through faith. God, as God, by his own Being, under all circumstances, must to a large extent remain apprehensible by faith alone.
and regarding hope:
Hope ordinarily has its very terminus and object in the final state as such, and would accordingly with the arrival of the latter seem to supersede itself. Hence the word becomes suggestive of still ulterior vistas of realization within the final state.
Jonathan Edwards, writing on increasing eternal joy in The End for Which God Created the World, says that:
I suppose it will not be denied by any, that God, in glorifying the saints in heaven with eternal felicity, aims to satisfy his infinite grace or benevolence, by the bestowment of a good [which is] infinitely valuable, because eternal: and yet there never will come the moment, when it can be said, that now this infinitely valuable good has been actually bestowed
Now, I normally hear people say that only love abides forever, and that faith will not be a part of life then, since we will know even as we are known. And that since we will see him face to face, hope is also excluded, since, as Paul says, "who hopes for what he sees?"
So, then...
1. Do faith and hope have a place in the eternal state?
2. If not, can we still talk about increasing joy/knowledge of God/glory in heaven without them?