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I think we need to do damage control on the church. I'm currently scatter-shooting some ideas onto a word doc. and my fiance is drawing up short animations for a youtube video. The problem is that the conservative church has basically woven speculative futurist eschatology into the fabric of western society. How do you undo that? Can we draw out leviathan with a fishhook? I'm looking for friends... lets work on this together. I can create a shared file.I went for a long walk today and listened to this debate. Half way through it really struck home how ridicules these futurist schemes really are.
Unique, you need a first name or nickname in your signature unless your name is "puritan" so folks know how to address you.I think we need to do damage control on the church. I'm currently scatter-shooting some ideas onto a word doc. and my fiance is drawing up short animations for a youtube video. The problem is that the conservative church has basically woven speculative futurist eschatology into the fabric of western society. How do you undo that? Can we draw out leviathan with a fishhook? I'm looking for friends... lets work on this together. I can create a shared file.
Yeah, these two are arguing over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin and being snarky about it. PreWrath is the only futurist view that make sense to me but I have a lot of trouble viewing the millennium as a literal 1,000 years.Not all futurisms are the same. I lean futurist amil at this point (amil but with a future tribulation and personal antichrist). The early church, or some in it, though the antichrist would be a Jew.
Yeah, these two are arguing over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin and being snarky about it. PreWrath is the only futurist view that make sense to me but I have a lot of trouble viewing the millennium as a literal 1,000 years.
I'm all ears if you'd like to explain in detail what you believe.
Yours in the Lord,
jm
Both participants in the debate are PreWrath.Exegetically, pre-wrath is the only view that makes sense of Matthew 24 and the timing of the tribulation. That said, I don't see how one is logically committed to a millennium by holding that Christians won't be here for the full time of Antichrist.
Yeah, these two are arguing over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin and being snarky about it. PreWrath is the only futurist view that make sense to me but I have a lot of trouble viewing the millennium as a literal 1,000 years.
I'm all ears if you'd like to explain in detail what you believe.
Yours in the Lord,
jm
I keep seing "prewrath" in the chats. Is that anything like the pre-trib rapture doctrine?Both participants in the debate are PreWrath.
I keep seing "prewrath" in the chats. Is that anything like the pre-trib rapture doctrine?
Can you explain the amil futurist idea?Not all futurisms are the same. I lean futurist amil at this point (amil but with a future tribulation and personal antichrist). The early church, or some in it, though the antichrist would be a Jew.
Can you explain the amil futurist idea?