Genevan Psalter

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  1. Ben Chomp

    Ben Chomp Puritan Board Freshman

    To me it's simply the best. The music is the most beautiful and the words are the most poetic. But I can't find a copy of it in book form (with words and music). Could anyone point me in the right direction?
     
  2. Tom Hart

    Tom Hart Puritan Board Senior

    Here's one, published in 2015. I'm not sure the words are the same as the one you're used to, though. These are newer translations.
    https://www.amazon.com/New-Genevan-Psalter/dp/0887561055

    If you're looking for the older versions, pick up a Book of Praise published before the psalter linked above.
     
  3. Logan

    Logan Puritan Board Junior

    Could you add a few more details? I'm aware of several psalters referred to as the "Genevan Psalter".

    The original Genevan psalter would have been in French and incomplete. It may have been completed later. In recent years there was a "New Genevan Psalter" published, which may have used Geneva tunes but would be an English translation. I found copies on Amazon. It may be related to The Genevan Psalter Resource Center.

    I thought there was a Dutch psalter referred to as the Geneva Psalter too, (which may or may not be the Anglo-Genevan Psalter as I've not managed to get a copy).

    Can you post what you are referring to?
     
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  4. Susan777

    Susan777 Puritan Board Freshman

    When and if you find out please post it here. I recently discovered the Genevan Psalter and music (Goudimel). I am eager to find more.
     
  5. Ben Chomp

    Ben Chomp Puritan Board Freshman

    I just corresponded with the webmaster from www.genevanpsalter.com. He is working right now to send a new edition to print which should be ready in August. He will sell printed copies for a reasonable price. I'm getting one!
     
  6. Ben Chomp

    Ben Chomp Puritan Board Freshman

    I suspect that the Anglo-Genevan or the Book of Praise might capture what I understand to be the Genevan Psalter. I'm talking about what's published in PDF form over at www.genevanpsalter.com. I'm interested in the original Goudimel settings with English translations informed by Calvin's renderings.
     
  7. Tom Hart

    Tom Hart Puritan Board Senior

    The lyrics on that website, as stated by tbe webmaster, are reproduced with permission from the Book of Praise: Anglo-Genevan Psalter. (The tunes are in the public domain.) The more recent publication that I mentioned above, the New Genevan Psalter, uses different, newer translations that are intended to be more accurate to the biblical text; however, I find the newer versions quite a bit clunkier in terms of poetry.
     
  8. Ben Chomp

    Ben Chomp Puritan Board Freshman

    I'm afraid that the newer versions may also have corrupted Goudimel's settings. Adding time signatures and such.
     
  9. Susan777

    Susan777 Puritan Board Freshman

    Thank you. That is very good news.
     
  10. TylerRay

    TylerRay Puritan Board Senior

    You can buy one new at a reasonable price here: http://bookofpraise.ca

    The Book of Praise: Anglo-Genevan Psalter is the official song book of the Canadian Reformed Churches. It has the Three Forms of Unity in the back, too!
     
  11. Guido's Brother

    Guido's Brother Puritan Board Junior

    Yes, the Canadian Reformed Churches (as well as the Free Reformed Churches of Australia where I currently serve) use the Genevan tunes for the psalms. Our Book of Praise contains 150 psalms set to the original Genevan melodies. Claude Goudimel's four-part settings came later and, so far as I know, weren't intended for congregational singing, but performance. I don't know of any church that has ever used Goudimel's settings in public worship.

    And yes, the renditions of the Psalms in our Book of Praise are more geared to faithfulness to the Hebrew text than to reproducing the French of the original Genevan Psalter in English. That's as it should be for congregational singing.
     
  12. Tom Hart

    Tom Hart Puritan Board Senior

    There's a chap on YouTube, Ernst Stolz, who's made it his project to complete instrumental recordings of the Genevan Psalter, on period instruments. These are top-notch recordings. Some of the videos, unfortunately, have violations of the Second Commandment. The video linked below, however, is free of them.

     
  13. TylerRay

    TylerRay Puritan Board Senior

    There are CREC churches that do.
     
  14. Guido's Brother

    Guido's Brother Puritan Board Junior

    They must have talented singers. Are there any videos online of them doing it?
     
  15. Tom Hart

    Tom Hart Puritan Board Senior

    For those with interest in the Genevan Psalter, there is a CD available called "Psaumes de la Réforme". The recordings are by the Claude Goudimel Ensemble. The psalm and Scripture song selections are sung a capella in early modern French.

    You can sample the tracks here:
    https://www.amazon.com/Psaumes-Reforme-Christine-Morel/dp/B000QQPDE6
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  16. TylerRay

    TylerRay Puritan Board Senior

  17. Susan777

    Susan777 Puritan Board Freshman

  18. De Jager

    De Jager Puritan Board Freshman

    My fiancee was a member of a Canadian Reformed Church and taught at one of their schools. She is very familiar with the genevan psalter. I am too. I have a book of praise at home and love using it. Sometimes I find a good Dutch "orgel" accompaniment to sing along to on youtube. My favourite tunes is for Psalm 43.
     
  19. Susan777

    Susan777 Puritan Board Freshman

    The Genevanpsalter.com is a great website. It is amazing that all of the parts of each psalm are sung by one man. It must have taken him a very long time but the end result is a treasure. My goal is to learn one psalm each Lord’s Day.
     
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  20. Jeri Tanner

    Jeri Tanner Moderator Staff Member

    Perhaps someone on the PB knows the answer: why, when new psalters were translated in Scotland and England and Ireland, were the Genevan tunes not retained? (Of course a few were at least for the 1650).
     
  21. Reformed Bookworm

    Reformed Bookworm Puritan Board Junior

    Thank you for sharing. My wife and I are listening now.
     
  22. Ben Chomp

    Ben Chomp Puritan Board Freshman

    Renaissance music lacks a time signature and is believed to be unsingable by modern people.
     
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