Gospel in the Law, Law in the Gospel

Discussion in 'The Law of God' started by kceaster, May 19, 2005.

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  1. C. Matthew McMahon

    C. Matthew McMahon Christian Preacher

    Not by virtue of the commandment, but of the time they were released from Egypt, which, to coin the same phrase, is the standard view. ;) Edwards is quite good on that point overall.

    Sounds like you are both on the same page.

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  2. Larry Hughes

    Larry Hughes Puritan Board Sophomore

    For a GREAT discussion this week concerning Law/Gospel I would encourage all interested to listen to this week's installment on the WHI. It goes to great lengths and analysis as to why this distinction is necessary and to obedience from Grace. Link Below. You should find it greatly encouraging.


    May 22nd: Rightly Dividing the Word: Law & Gospel

    Funny, this was the message this week. Paster Eswine reiterated that our obedience comes from the sight of our mercy, for the mercy we've been given - this drives our true obedience in love which is the Law. If I didn't botch re-quoting him;)

    It has been greatly encouraging this Lord's day!!!

    Blessings In Christ to all,


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  3. Bryan

    Bryan Puritan Board Freshman

    I concur, it was an excelent espoide this week as always, but this one and last weeks were particularly usefull to myself at least.

  4. Larry Hughes

    Larry Hughes Puritan Board Sophomore

    Amen Bryan!

  5. kceaster

    kceaster Puritan Board Junior

    I listened this morning, too. I thought it was well balanced and precise. I found nothing in it that I disagreed with.

    It is interesting to hear their discussion about the uses of the law in light of the excerpt that was posted the other day from L. Berkhof. I think they actually did come to view the second use as more favorable, but I also like the analogy of the pedagogue. This kind of parallels the usage of lamad in the OT, which is the word used for both teaching and learning. Lamad is derived from malmad, an oxgoad. About one fifth of the times it is used in the OT is in Deuteronomy, which falls in line with perhaps both the second and the third use of the law.

    This is much more clear to me now. But it brought up some more questions I have to deal with.

    Thanks all for your help.

    In Christ,

  6. crhoades

    crhoades Puritan Board Graduate

    Kevin, Matthew, Fred, RSC et.al...

    How does what John Frame writes here
    compare with what has been agreed on this thread already? Any criticisms?
  7. Myshkin

    Myshkin Puritan Board Freshman

    Strange Chris, but I was just about to post the exact same question!:eek:
    You beat me to it.

    I find it interesting that Frame expresses diagreement with MR and ACE folks, and both sides claim to be reformed. Which is it for Frame? Is the classical view Lutheran and his view reformed? or are they both reformed and we have to look at the issue through Frame's multiperspectivalism or whatever it is called. or is his view in line with the FV/shepherd view?

    I found this http://homepage.mac.com/shanerosenthal/reformationink/srlawgospel.htm helpful

    [Edited on 5-23-2005 by RAS]
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