Is the Roman Catholic Mass / worship idolatry or not?

Discussion in 'Cults & World Religions' started by CDM, May 7, 2008.

  1. YES

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  1. SueS

    SueS Puritan Board Freshman

    Actually, I thought that right hand looked rather feminine. Joe hiding something from us???
  2. Galatians220

    Galatians220 Puritan Board Post-Graduate

    "L'Affaire Bernard Cardinal Law" may be a stark indicator of Joe Ratzy's, oh, capacity for duplicity, among other things, so, yeah, there is more there than meets the (superficial) eye. :)

    Joseph Cardinal Bernardin (late archbishop of Chicago) was another piece of work to whom the Ratman was "more than kind." :detective: Yucky, yucky stuff... :eek: :book2:

  3. BobVigneault

    BobVigneault Bawberator

    I was eating pan pizza with the two Joe's at The Caravelle in Glenview, IL in 1975. Joey B said to Joey R, "Do you think we'll see priests getting married in our lifetime?"

    Joey R replied, "No, not in ours but definitely in our children's."
  4. Stephen

    Stephen Puritan Board Junior

    Have you met Scott Hahn? He is one of Rome's newest apologists and a professor at Franciscan University. He is so full of himself that it is hard to listen to him, even if he was not spouting Papist heresy.
  5. Neogillist

    Neogillist Puritan Board Freshman

    Although the popish mass is rather idolatrous, I think that some evangelical worship services nowadays have managed to exceed them in their idolatry. Just look at movements like Vineyards, where people start barking like dogs, quaking or speaking in tongues or jumping, dancing with flags; all of these things being done without any reverence whatsoever as if Jesus was their penpal. In a mass at least, there is some level of reverence given to worship. I personally define idolatry (and I think that fits the scriptural definition of it) to be any distorted/unscriptural notion of God. Thus singing any song which convey a false notion in regard to the nature of God is idolatry. The Israelites made themselves a golden calf desiring to portray God or "their gods" in a way that suited their carnal minds, and ultimately this is something that we can all be charged guilty of. Lacking reverence is worship is also idolatry like I said because it belittles God. Overall, the papists may be idolaters, but we are all idolaters to certain degrees and various ways; none of us can truly worship God perfectly or please Him in our worship apart from the satisfaction of Christ.
  6. Stephen

    Stephen Puritan Board Junior

    Robert, I was not going to comment but your ignorance of Irish history, would not let me remain silent. You cannot accuse another brother of hatred anymore than I could accuse you of discrimination against someone because of their nationality. You obviously do not know anything about Irish people or their history. I would urge you to stop listening to the American media and politicians, who have been supportive of Sein Fein. Read and study history before you make such statements, which are not based on fact.
  7. Stephen

    Stephen Puritan Board Junior

    Yes, Rome historically is good at covering up the sins of its clergy. It is an evil and false system because it is false religion.
  8. Stephen

    Stephen Puritan Board Junior

    Yes, we must remember that the Reformers were opposing the idolatry of Rome, because of the time in which they lived. If they saw the idolatry that calls itself worship in so-called evangelical churches today, they would condemn it. If we claim to be Protestants we should be reforming the church today of its idolatry, especially the rubish that occurs in some PCA churches.
  9. Amazing Grace

    Amazing Grace Puritan Board Junior

    Where was I in error Stephen? Explain to me the history of where I veered off into some american revisionism? I meant no harm to Daniel, and since he did not reply, I thought I was spot on. Does Nova Scotia have a better rendering of Irelands history? :think:

    Perhpas Daniel, who lives there can give us the correct version..
  10. NaphtaliPress

    NaphtaliPress Administrator Staff Member

    This ends now.

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