I am looking for all the info I can find on this verse. How does it pertain to the Trinity, the Son's co-eternal and co-equal status to the Father, the ontological versus economic Trinity, the eternal generation of the Son. Richard Muller wrote this abut the "Persons" of the Trinity: However, I don't understand Muller's phrase above: "...the persons of the Son and Spirit have an origin..." What does he mean by "origin?" And why did the Father need to "grant" the Son anything in light of their co-eternal ontological natures? How do you address this verse in sermons?