Joyce Meyer

Discussion in 'The Pilgrims Progress' started by D. Paul, May 27, 2009.

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  1. D. Paul

    D. Paul Puritan Board Sophomore

    I am going on a little trip! My wife and I have been close friends with another couple for several years now. Our backgrounds are all related as products of the Holiness movement; our friends and my wife knowing nothing but Pentecostalism and I being raised Nazarene. I have moved the furthest from and have severed the ties to those roots. My wife and friends remain basically Pentecostal in their thinking/belief although we all attend a General Baptist Church. OK, So much for that...

    My wife and I have been invited by this couple to an upcoming Joyce Meyer Conference. Personally, I have no need for JM. She offers me little to nothing when I have listened to her. But we will go.

    For those who may not be aware, I recently lost my job (thanks for prayer) so I am anticipating that the timing of this event will be viewed as being "divinely appointed" and that JM will having something to "speak into my spirit" or have some "prophesy". (Is my bias showing?:smug:)

    We've had our conversations regarding the opposing doctrines before, so they are somewhat aware of where I stand. I cannot help but understand the Charismatic stuff since it's crammed down our throats everywhere we turn. But I've seen it before. They will gush over how "awesome" it was etc etc and unless I want to ruin the trip, I'll have relatively little to say.

    So, I don't know...what can I do? What would any of you do?:(
     
  2. LawrenceU

    LawrenceU Puritan Board Doctor

    Personally, I would not go. Not only does she teach heresy, you will be sitting under a woman who is far outside of Biblical authority as she is teaching the Scriptures to men. If there is a Jezebel spirit, . . . . Well, if you are from a charismatic background you know where I'm going.
     
  3. BobVigneault

    BobVigneault Bawberator

    I wouldn't go, I couldn't go. I just don't have the intestinal fortitude to sit through that. I just threw up a little in my mouth just thinking of it.

    Sorry to be so middle of the road, I'll try to form an opinion and get back to you. (Ugh!)
     
  4. LeeJUk

    LeeJUk Puritan Board Junior

    the last thing i heard of her was that she preached a very very....strannnnge Jesus
     
  5. LadyFlynt

    LadyFlynt Puritan Board Doctor

    We couldn't/wouldn't go. No way, no how, not even if she offered us her mansion.
     
  6. toddpedlar

    toddpedlar Iron Dramatist Staff Member

    Ditto to all the above. Despite any injury or harm that temporarily might come to the friendship, there is no way I could possibly allow myself or my wife to attend such a conference, no possible reason I could come up with to endure it and give off even the slightest impression that I thought Joyce Meyer was legitimately called to do what she does, or that she is anything shy of a heretic.
     
  7. he beholds

    he beholds Puritan Board Doctor

    I would not go. Since you all go to the same church, I think it would be easy enough to find something she says that goes against what your pastor preaches (I hope!) so that would be my excuse, for the sake of the friendship. Or I would probably personally laugh it off, and say, "yeah, I don't think I'm a big fan of hers...thanks, though!"
     
  8. Knoxienne

    Knoxienne Puritan Board Graduate

    Nothing good can come from having anything whatsover to do with Joyce Meyer. :2cents:
     
  9. toddpedlar

    toddpedlar Iron Dramatist Staff Member

    I don't know, if you were her neighbor, and her dog came over and did his business on your lawn, maybe it'd be greener. That would be good, right?
     
  10. Poimen

    Poimen Puritan Board Post-Graduate

    I am hoping that the divine appointment is that you get a job so that you will have an excuse to 'miss out'. Or perhaps you could say that you need to look for a job and not spend (read: waste) time with such things.

    For myself I simply wouldn't go; I would say 'no thanks'; and if they want a reason - she is not divinely appointed by God to do and say most if not all of what she does. (1 Timothy 2:12)
     
  11. Bern

    Bern Puritan Board Freshman

    Not a good idea to attend anything where a known false teacher is the speaker. Even in the name of unity, because true unity can only be in truth.
     
  12. Knoxienne

    Knoxienne Puritan Board Graduate

    If he was a cute doggy I'd just keep him and give him a doctrinally good home! :p:D
     
  13. Damon Rambo

    Damon Rambo Puritan Board Sophomore

    I don't know. I have always wanted to go to one of these things with a bunch of Reformed Christians, and street preach outside, to the people who are going in. Hand out tracts with a list of all of Joyce Meyers false teachings. Take my little battery powered 15 watt amplifier, and microphone, and denounce their heresies to everyone who will pause on their way in, long enough to listen...

    That's what I would do!
     
  14. reformedminister

    reformedminister Puritan Board Sophomore

    Don't go! Joyce Meyer has a background in the Word of Faith movement like John Hagee and Kenneth Copeland. One of the many erroneous doctrines that comes from that movement is the teaching that the Atonement includes Christ suffering in Hell at the hands of Satan. Satan isn't even in Hell!
     
  15. D. Paul

    D. Paul Puritan Board Sophomore

    Well, the "event" is this coming Saturday. I recall I was told about the conference but did not realize it was this weekend until just yesterday when my wife said "Now don't forget this weekend...". I :confused: and now have no means of escape.
     
  16. LadyFlynt

    LadyFlynt Puritan Board Doctor

    Uhm, why don't you have means of escape??? A simple "we've decided not to"...
     
  17. SemperEruditio

    SemperEruditio Puritan Board Junior

    Don't go. Nothing good can come of it...actually you will have a new fervor to pray for your friends and all those who are drinking JM's koolade.

    My wife and I have been invited to a few of TD Jakes' special appearances here in Maryland and we both just smile and shrug it off with a "Thanks for asking but I'm not a fan of TD." This is usually met with questions which we respond to. Thanks be to God that some are beginning to see "issues" with some stuff he says.
     
  18. Marrow Man

    Marrow Man Drunk with Powder

    :ditto:

    :barfy:
     
  19. BobVigneault

    BobVigneault Bawberator

    Donald, I'm sure you don't want to hear it but passivity would be the wrong response in this situation. You are the spiritual head and you have a responsibility for what your wife hears and is exposed to.
     
  20. CDM

    CDM Puritan Board Junior

    Have you considered if God would have you attend such a meeting?
     
  21. DMcFadden

    DMcFadden Puritan Board Doctor

    Don't go.
     
  22. Joseph Scibbe

    Joseph Scibbe Puritan Board Junior

    Joyce Meyer makes me :barfy: and I would rather :banghead: than go to her conference. But I am not sure :flamingscot: is our best option for her. I would say dont go though. I would also suggest you not let your wife attend.
     
  23. Damon Rambo

    Damon Rambo Puritan Board Sophomore

    I don't mean to make light of the situation, but I have to say: if I had to bet money on a sentence I would NEVER hear on the Puritan Board, it would be "Me and my wife are going to see Joyce Meyers..."
     
  24. Michael Doyle

    Michael Doyle Puritan Board Junior

    Dont go, she is a flat out heretic. Explain to your wife that you must simply obey your conscience which is governed by scripture and in light of that will not attend nor she.
     
  25. he beholds

    he beholds Puritan Board Doctor

    Or better yet, try to bring your wife to reason and to agree with you! I would prefer that much more, though I would obey my husband regardless.
     
  26. Whitefield

    Whitefield Puritan Board Junior

    Tell her you are going to take her out for a romantic dinner and good movie, instead. :wink:
     
  27. LawrenceU

    LawrenceU Puritan Board Doctor

    If you wife can read quickly go and buy a copy of [ame=http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1565631323/ref=sib_dp_pt#reader-link]Amazon.com: A Different Gospel: Biblical and Historical Insights into the Word of Faith Movement: D. R. McConnell: Books[/ame]

    It is a great book, written by a charismatic minister. It points out the core heresies of the Word Faith movement in which Meyer squarely sits.

    Seriously. Don't go. Nothing good will come of it. This is at time intestinal fortitude. It is your DUTY to protect your wife from false teaching. Chose the hard path. You will be rewarded. Remember: Duty first at all costs. It is the hallmark of leadership.
     
  28. Rangerus

    Rangerus Puritan Board Junior

    reminds me of a little ditty we used to sing in Sunday School.

    "stand up, stand up for Jesus,
    ye soldiers of the cross
    Lift high His royal banner,
    It must not suffer loss.
    From vict'ry unto vict'ry
    His army shall He lead
    Till ev'ry foe is vanquished
    And Christ is Lord indeed."
     
  29. he beholds

    he beholds Puritan Board Doctor

    Pastor Marshall, that is a great idea!
    Would she enjoy the surprise? I don't recommend being dishonest, but since the event is this weekend, I can see a wife being mad at a husband's new and "strange" ruling. BUT, if you could kidnap her and drive her somewhere else and have a great date and explain then that the more you thought about it, the more you realized that Meyers was no good, she might accept it well!
    Obviously I don't know how your relationship is, but I can easily say that my husband making a decision like this that I don't understand, and so close to the event, would make me mad, but I would be more than willing to understand why and to learn why.
     
  30. Theognome

    Theognome Burrito Bill

    Sung to the tune of If You Leave Me Now by Chicago

    If You Leave With Them

    If you leave with them, you'll come away with nonsense prophecy,
    Ooooo Paul, D. Paul please don't go!
    And if you leave with them, she'll tickle all your ears with heresy,
    Ooooo Paul, D. Paul please don't go!

    A faith like ours is truth that's hard to find,
    How can you let it slip away,
    You'll drive real far and get a sore behind,
    from kicking yourself along the way,
    When the shows all done you'll all regret,
    The time wasted that day,

    (Guitar Solo)

    A faith like ours is truth that's hard to find,
    How can you let it slip away,
    This Joyce Meyer is a most goofy kind,
    Almost as bad as Tammy Fay,
    When the shows all done you'll all regret,
    The time wasted that day,

    If you leave with them, you'll come away with nonsense prophecy,
    Ooooo Paul, D. Paul please don't go!
    That girl, I Just wish she was on Christ's side,

    Ooooo Paul, D. Paul please don't go!


    Theognome
     
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