He was actually the first ordination in the PCA way back in the early 70's. He was in Atlanta last I remember working a RPCNA mission type of thing in a very Urban setting.Who’s frank smith?
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He was actually the first ordination in the PCA way back in the early 70's. He was in Atlanta last I remember working a RPCNA mission type of thing in a very Urban setting.Who’s frank smith?
Was wondering that too. Googling "Frank Smith" isn't going to be the most productive method of finding out.Who’s frank smith?
You need to type in Dr. Frank Smith Reformed Presbyterian..... I found this. https://atlanta-rpc.org/us/leadership/Was wondering that too. Googling "Frank Smith" isn't going to be the most productive method of finding out.
He is a pastor now in the RPCNA but formerly one of the leaders in the confessionalist movement of the PCA that fought against the advancing tide of liberalism in that denomination. He published an online newsletter for a few years http://www.presbyteriannews.org/ that contained information that one couldn't get from the official church organs. (I don't recall if the denomination's publication was The Messenger or byFaith in those days.)Who’s frank smith?
Then there was the sorry story out of Scotland of Iain Campbell and the churchfolk who only began to do the right thing after 'discernment bloggers' exposed what the good folk in the church leadership were doing to the victim. Public embarrassment led to public apology. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/2151240/anne-campbell-iain-campbell-isle-of-lewis-free-church/
Of course, sometimes it is hard to see the line between what can be the exceedingly slow process of the church courts on one side and stonewalling and cover-up on the other.
For the record, I consider Frank Smith one of the good guys.
Frank Smith is one of the good guys. Thanks Edward. He lives and speaks to where he lives and breaths. He understands boundaries. You have to love a person like that.
I try to do the same. If you post here you are in my boundaries. Just saying.
Who’s frank smith?
He was actually the first ordination in the PCA way back in the early 70's. He was in Atlanta last I remember working a RPCNA mission type of thing in a very Urban setting.
A Hippy and a Scholar.
Me and Dr. Frank Smith
Edit.... My grammar school teacher would be all over me for writing or saying, "Me and Dr. Frank Smith." LOL
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Was wondering that too. Googling "Frank Smith" isn't going to be the most productive method of finding out.
You need to type in Dr. Frank Smith Reformed Presbyterian..... I found this. https://atlanta-rpc.org/us/leadership/
Randy, Nice picture with Frank. I first met Frank in the mid 1980s; my church unofficially candidated him and he was interested in one of the gals; didn't work out on either front; he eventually married a Brit (Penny) and as you say he has planted a RPCNA church in the most blighted part of Atlanta. We got to know each other over the years through long telephone chats. He has been an editor of some fashion for The Confessional Presbyterian journal from the beginning; he made a huge contribution with a piece I did the additional research for on the history of the literature on the regulative principle of worship from 1946 till like 2008. He also has one of the more memorable segments in the documentary Spirit and Truth: a film about worship by Les Lanphere. If you have not seen this it is absolutely must viewing. See https://www.missionalwear.com/spiritandtruthHe is a pastor now in the RPCNA but formerly one of the leaders in the confessionalist movement of the PCA that fought against the advancing tide of liberalism in that denomination. He published an online newsletter for a few years http://www.presbyteriannews.org/ that contained information that one couldn't get from the official church organs. (I don't recall if the denomination's publication was The Messenger or byFaith in those days.)
Everything would seem to hinge on that "If"If investigative reporting to uncover corruption is a good thing in the secular world, why would it not be a good thing in the "church realm" if done with skill, truth, and for the purpose of God's glory and the good of the church?
I remember that. A certain RB narrative of child abuse was not-so-subtly constructed, of which your church's situation was an additional building block.Our own church was hit a somewhat by such reporting. All because one of our members was arrested for child molestation (not on church property and not during church activities).
It didn't matter that it was reported the morning it was discovered, detectives did interviews, and within five days he found himself in jail facing charges--we obviously were covering something up.
Those facts were publicly available in local media, but the "investigator" only talked about how this happened in another Reformed Baptist church.
This incident is an example of 1) how things are supposed to work; 2) how important good ecclesiology is to addressing problems, and the importance of using it, for safeguard of doctrine, practice, and people; 3) the lingering and far-reaching effects of sin and coverup, even far away and long ago, both as to an individual and institution; and 4) the real yet frequently improper (and unscrupulous) tactic of "guilt by association."Our own church was hit a somewhat by such reporting. All because one of our members was arrested for child molestation (not on church property and not during church activities).
It didn't matter that it was reported the morning it was discovered, detectives did interviews, and within five days he found himself in jail facing charges--we obviously were covering something up.
Those facts were publicly available in local media, but the "investigator" only talked about how this happened in another Reformed Baptist church.
Our own church was hit a somewhat by such reporting. All because one of our members was arrested for child molestation (not on church property and not during church activities).
It didn't matter that it was reported the morning it was discovered, detectives did interviews, and within five days he found himself in jail facing charges--we obviously were covering something up.
Those facts were publicly available in local media, but the "investigator" only talked about how this happened in another Reformed Baptist church.
I remember that as well. If I recall correctly the narrative came from someone who, after having outed a pastor publicly, believes he now knows everything there is to know about scandals and has effectively made himself the chief crusader against alleged injustice by shouting gossip from the internet roof tops.I remember that. A certain RB narrative of child abuse was not-so-subtly constructed, of which your church's situation was an additional building block.
I felt bad for your church when I heard about it, even though I didn't know anyone from there. To me, it didn't seem fair at all, but that hardly matters; even if totally unjustified, those kind of implications leave a real stink.