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1) Liberals. (low respect for scripture)
2) More liberals. (low respect for God)
3) Even more liberals. (high respect of man & his opinions)
It's like the Borg (from Star Trek) assimilating people into an increasing spiritual stupor.
Fear of men.
1) Liberals. (low respect for scripture)
2) More liberals. (low respect for God)
3) Even more liberals. (high respect of man & his opinions)
It's like the Borg (from Star Trek) assimilating people into an increasing spiritual stupor.
Er, I may have reported Jack K's post when I meant to thank it. Oops....
I agree with all of the above, but I also think that some churches have been too heavy handed in their discipline - not applying it lovingly or not doing a through investigation of the facts before charging a member. This makes people wary of joining churches that actually practice good discipline and it may make some church leaders (who've heard horror stories) leery of applying discipline. Other factors are probably more to blame for the lack of church discipline, but I think this also comes into play.
Er, I may have reported Jack K's post when I meant to thank it. Oops....
I agree with all of the above, but I also think that some churches have been too heavy handed in their discipline - not applying it lovingly or not doing a through investigation of the facts before charging a member. This makes people wary of joining churches that actually practice good discipline and it may make some church leaders (who've heard horror stories) leery of applying discipline. Other factors are probably more to blame for the lack of church discipline, but I think this also comes into play.
I agree with this too. Many churches "discipline" by means of gossip, intimidation, blackmail and humiliation. Of course we know that this isn't biblically correct, loving, or effective in the right way. But it is still done in many places.