Media reaction to the Collision movie

Discussion in 'Apologetical Methods' started by Kevin, Oct 28, 2009.

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  1. Kevin

    Kevin Puritan Board Doctor

  2. Confessor

    Confessor Puritan Board Senior

    Hitchens is such a raving fool. He always changes the subject.
  3. Zenas

    Zenas Snow Miser

    Doug Wilson has a wicked beard. Hitchens' lip service for "religion" rings hollow, and also implicitly accepts Alvin Plantinga's attempt to use evolution to refute, or cast doubt, on naturalism.
  4. Brian Withnell

    Brian Withnell Puritan Board Junior

    Sigh. When I hear an atheist stating they don't have sufficient reason to believe in the existence of God, I tend to want to go for the throat and respond with "you not only have enough evidence, but because you are evil, you suppress that truth in your evil because you want to remain in your evil ways." It wouldn't likely be received well, but it is true (Rom 1:18 is one of my favorite verses!)
  5. JM

    JM Puritan Board Professor

    I wish Dr. White did this debate.
  6. Zenas

    Zenas Snow Miser

    It's probably, largely, the same debate. Is not Wilson a presuppositionalist, not unlike White?

    Good question though. I suspect Dr. White may be focused in other areas.
  7. JM

    JM Puritan Board Professor

    I don't get Wilson or his arguments. They seem half finished. Yes, I read the book.
  8. Kevin

    Kevin Puritan Board Doctor

    No. He is not.
  9. py3ak

    py3ak They're stalling and plotting against me Staff Member

  10. Zenas

    Zenas Snow Miser

    I like Hitchen's article and by in large agree. He's aware of the honest fact that alot of Americans are dishonest skeptics. I guess it takes an atheist...
  11. steven-nemes

    steven-nemes Puritan Board Sophomore

    Are you saying Doug Wilson is not a presuppositionalist?

    He sure sounds like one...
  12. ChristianTrader

    ChristianTrader Puritan Board Graduate

    I think he is saying White is not a presuppositionalist.
  13. steven-nemes

    steven-nemes Puritan Board Sophomore

    Isn't White a presuppositionalist too, though? I thought that was his method, and I remember reading things from im that appear presuppositionalist in nature...
  14. Zenas

    Zenas Snow Miser

    News to me. White argues like a presuppositionalist and recommends books by presuppositionalists.
  15. MMasztal

    MMasztal Puritan Board Sophomore

    I'd say White is a presup and I believe he would have done better in the debate with Hitchens.

    But gosh, aren't guys like Hitchens and Dawkins absolute clowns?
  16. Zenas

    Zenas Snow Miser

    I don't consider Hitchens a clown. I like his no-nonsense attitude and I often agree with some of the things he says on topics other than religion. If you read the article posted by Ruben, Hitchens actually seems to have a coherent understanding of orthodox Christianity. He at least listens on a basic level and attempts to understand. That's more than I can say for pretty much every other public atheist I've seen. We know that regardless he represses the truth, however, he's not so terrified of being wrong that he plugs his ears with regard to the other side.

    Dawkins employs logical fallacies such as ad hominem. I generally find his antics to be trite and woefully immature.
  17. snap_dragon

    snap_dragon Puritan Board Freshman

    David Robertson

    I would personally like to hear Hitch go against David Robertson, a presuppositionalist who I have heard on Premiere UK Unbelievable podcasts...knows his stuff.

    (2 cents and maybe a bit off topic...)
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