Men should wear beards...according to this guy.

[Marrow Man]

Tim

A serious question: is he also a kinist?

Is that someone who believes true Christians should only marry their first cousins?

From kinism.net:

Kinism is the belief that the God-ordained social order for man is tribal and ethnic rather than imperial and universal. Mankind was designed by its Creator and Law Giver to live and to thrive in extended family groups, and all other “alternatives” to this pattern are inhibitory of the chief end of man, which is to Glorify God and to enjoy life with Him forever. The doctrine of “equality”, originating with the Jacobin clubs of the French Revolution and adopted by modern liberalism, is highly destructive to the created order of the world, contrary to both nature and to Revealed Law, antithetical to biblical liberty, and is ultimately unachievable. This fact is proven in history by multiple examples and is beyond dispute. Extended blood ties are the only natural and workable basis for a healthy society -a society not subject to the horrifying ideologies of fallen man, be they socialist or capitalist, autocratic or democratic. We believe that an extended tribalism is the normative system for our people, the White races of Europe, the Americas, South Africa, Australia, Transcaucasia, or wherever our extended family finds itself in its modern diaspora.

 

[Rufus]

From kinism.net:

A girl at my school tried to argue kinism on me once :/. Frankly most people do it because there racist and use the Bible as an excuse.

 

[Bill The Baptist]

Hair grows on the head too, why does he have a crew cut?

"Does not even nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a dishonor to him?" I Cor. 11:14

Just a guess as to why he has the rather odd look of a crew cut with a long beard.

 

[VictorBravo]

A serious question: is he also a kinist?

No, I am fairly certain he is not, based upon some of his writings from circa 2006. Oddly, Yahoo search would not allow the links to be shown--I'd never seen such a warning. When I finally got to the link his writing seemed fairly standard agrarian fare, nothing offensive. The only mention of kinism I saw was him calling out some kinist writer for slandering his wife.

 

[puritanpilgrim]

absurd

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This is even more absurd. I took this off of his website. I've never heard of Biblical Agrarianism. Repent, sell your house and move to the country.

"Agrarianism is the only proper seedbed for Christianity. Where Christianity has existed in an Agrarian culture, it has thrived and produced ample fruit. Where it has existed nominally in a non-agrarian culture it has proved to produce no fruit at all except apostasy. Examples abound. Christianity was born “outside the camp” in the rural areas of Israel and it found its greatest movement and growth once it was scattered out of urban Jerusalem after the stoning of Stephen. It has been hunted down and persecuted by the great harlot city of Rome, while it thrived in the valleys and mountains of the Alps. It found Reformation in Germany, Switzerland, England and Scotland only to suffocate again when it became the state religion in the great cities of those lands. It fled Europe for the wilds of Puritan America and thrived in the fertile soils of the New World, only to be choked out once again by the stony ground of northern industrialism and the growing urban state. Christianity is not just theology, and the sooner we realize and accept that, the faster we will grow into maturity.

 

[Marrow Man]

Do you realize we haven't had a bearded U.S. President in roughly a century (since Teddy Roosevelt, If I recall correctly)? Which is why you should support my campaign for President. It's about time we had another beard in the White House.

 

[T.A.G.]

I believe Kevin Swanson believes the same thing...and I have heard pants being sin for similar reasonings as well from others

 

[Pergamum]

Hmmm, does jungle also equate to "rural" because the morals out here don't seem to be improved any by removal from cities. I am sure the American West was not holier than the Eastern cities. Also, the result of God's curse is that cities would be turned into wastes and deserts, right? And in Revelation, isn't there a City there?

 

[LawrenceU]

I believe Kevin Swanson believes the same thing...and I have heard pants being sin for similar reasonings as well from others

I'm not sure that Kevin would say the same things that this fellow is saying. He may point out some benefits in Agrarianism, but Kevin is big on Christians applying Biblical principles where ever they are. I've not heard him promote retreatism.

RE: the Beard Guy. He is a great example of imbalance shaping the reading of Scripture. I think he missed the fact that there is no epistle written to 'The Called In Christ that Live Down by the Creek that Runs out of Brushy Hollow.' They are all written to churches in cities. And, I say this as a man who vastly prefers a rural lifestyle.

 

[Philip]

It found Reformation in Germany, Switzerland, England and Scotland

In Wittenberg, Geneva, Oxford, and Edinburgh . . .

 

[T.A.G.]

I believe Kevin Swanson believes the same thing...and I have heard pants being sin for similar reasonings as well from others

I'm not sure that Kevin would say the same things that this fellow is saying. He may point out some benefits in Agrarianism, but Kevin is big on Christians applying Biblical principles where ever they are. I've not heard him promote retreatism.

RE: the Beard Guy. He is a great example of imbalance shaping the reading of Scripture. I think he missed the fact that there is no epistle written to 'The Called In Christ that Live Down by the Creek that Runs out of Brushy Hollow.' They are all written to churches in cities. And, I say this as a man who vastly prefers a rural lifestyle.

I meant that Kevin would say (as I have heard in person say) according to Scripture men should grow beards. not saying for the same reason this guy would say...

 

[Brother John]

Do you realize we haven't had a bearded U.S. President in roughly a century (since Teddy Roosevelt, If I recall correctly)? Which is why you should support my campaign for President. It's about time we had another beard in the White House.

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I believe Kevin Swanson believes the same thing...and I have heard pants being sin for similar reasonings as well from others

I'm not sure that Kevin would say the same things that this fellow is saying. He may point out some benefits in Agrarianism, but Kevin is big on Christians applying Biblical principles where ever they are. I've not heard him promote retreatism.

RE: the Beard Guy. He is a great example of imbalance shaping the reading of Scripture. I think he missed the fact that there is no epistle written to 'The Called In Christ that Live Down by the Creek that Runs out of Brushy Hollow.' They are all written to churches in cities. And, I say this as a man who vastly prefers a rural lifestyle.

I meant that Kevin would say (as I have heard in person say) according to Scripture men should grow beards. not saying for the same reason this guy would say...

Kevin Swanson is beardless is he not?

 

[T.A.G.]

John: he was preaching from far away when he said it but that is one of the thoughts that came into my mind

 

[ericfromcowtown]

I just shaved by beard of two years off on Saturday. I should have read this post first!

 

[Peairtach]

It found Reformation in Germany, Switzerland, England and Scotland only to suffocate again when it became the state religion in the great cities of those lands.

Well, speaking for Scotland, the Reformation actually took hold in the towns and cities and their surrounding areas - which even today are small compared to the great cities of the world - before eventually percolating into the Highlands and taking a strong hold there.

Some of the greatest progress in the evangelisation of the Highlands and re-evangelisation of the cities took place after the agricultural and industrial revolutions got going about 250 years ago.

The period of industrialisation corresponds somewhat to the period of the growth and spread of Enlightenment thinking. It's the anti-supernatural and anti-Christian Enlightenment doctrines - not the corresponding growth in industrialisation - that are the real tools of the Evil One.

"Agrarianism is the only proper seedbed for Christianity. Where Christianity has existed in an Agrarian culture, it has thrived and produced ample fruit.

He likes his puns.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Interesting how may cities the Apostle Paul labored in and wrote to: Corinth, Rome, Phillipi, Athens, Ephesus, ....

I guess Paul didn't have a beard...

 

[pepper]

It is clear that this man does not understand the fact that there are civil laws, ceremonal laws, and moral laws in the OT. We must be careful to remember that not all laws of the Bible apply to all in the same way or in our day. Does this man believe in circumcision?

 

[J. Dean]

Is it me or does anybody else look at this guy and think of Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart?

 

[LawrenceU]

Kevin Swanson is beardless is he not?

Yep. I'll see Kevin this weekend. I'll have to ask him why he is clean shaven.

 

[Andres]

Is it me or does anybody else look at this guy and think of Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart?

for working a Hart Foundation reference into this thread.

 

[Rufus]

Well, speaking for Scotland, the Reformation actually took hold in the towns and cities and their surrounding areas - which even today are small compared to the great cities of the world - before eventually percolating into the Highlands and taking a strong hold there.

My family (the Porterfields) may have been among the first Protestants in Scotland.

 

[Peairtach]

Well, speaking for Scotland, the Reformation actually took hold in the towns and cities and their surrounding areas - which even today are small compared to the great cities of the world - before eventually percolating into the Highlands and taking a strong hold there.

My family (the Porterfields) may have been among the first Protestants in Scotland.

Which part of Scotland were they from? It's not a name that I've come accross.

 

[Rufus]

Kilmacolm, 4000 pop. and 15 miles west of Glasgow. Here's a quote about my family from wikipedia, I'm gonna do some follow up research:

The Duchal estates were acquired from the Lyles by John Porterfield in 1544. The Porterfields were staunch Covenanters and Duchal was widely seen as a refuge when the profession of such sympathies was criminalised. Conventicles were held in the estate, particularly on the natural amphitheatre which is positioned within the present-day 14th hole of the Kilmacolm Golf Club. As a result of these religious sympathies, the estate was sequestered by the Crown in 1684 and the men of the Porterfield family arrested; it was however returned following the Glorious Revolution.[17]

 

[Peairtach]

VG. The Covenanting period was from 1638 ("Second Reformation") of course but it sounds as if they may have been also involved in the "First Reformation" (1560)

Covenanter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Scottish Reformation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Patrick Hamilton (d. 1528), the Lutheran, was the earliest famous preacher and martyr associated with the Scottish Reformation
Patrick Hamilton (martyr) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Rufus]

VG. The Covenanting period was from 1638 ("Second Reformation") of course but it sounds as if they may have been involved in the "First Reformation" (1560)

Well, even if they where just in the second reformation its still a pretty neat fact and memory. A few other Porterfield across the country have appeared to have been ministers (I think one I found was a Protestant, the other was a Catholic bishop).

 

[Jesus is my friend]

Well it is Stanley Cup playoff season and it is also playoff beard season so If he was arguing from that angle I might buy it.otherwise no I dont agree.

Playoff beard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Go Bruins!

 

[Brother John]

RESPECT THE BEARD

Now setting aside the views of this individual I have to stop and ponder how many of your criticisms are not due to the views of this individual but due to your own beard envy.....

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[FenderPriest]

There are some men who aren't entirely attractive with a beard. Fortunately, I'm not one of them.

And their are some wives who will not kiss a hairy face.

 

[Brother John]

There are some men who aren't entirely attractive with a beard. Fortunately, I'm not one of them.

And their are some wives who will not kiss a hairy face.

This saddens me, I humbly refer these sisters to my post above.....

 

[awretchsavedbygrace]

There are some men who aren't entirely attractive with a beard. Fortunately, I'm not one of them.

My beard looks up to your beard.