In Luke, Jesus has some "hard sayings" about discipleship, making clear its radical nature. Is being a disciple equivalent to mere salvation or is being a disciple some sort of super-spiritual state that comes afterward? If it is equivalent to mere salvation, then why is there so little evidence of radical commitment in evangelical (including reformed) churches in the states (Ethiopia also, for that matter)? The lives of female churchgoers in the states are generally consumed with clothes, food, and entertainment, not sure about males. Here in Ethiopia lives are consumed with staying alive. Jesus seems to describe His disciples as totally consumed with Him. Is there any salvation aside from the state of being a disciple to which He refers? If there is no salvation aside from this, that leaves out mental-assent believers who practice obedience unto inconvenience, right? The passages to which I refer are Luke 6:20-26;9:23ff; 9:;57ff; 12:8-12 and 49ff, 15:25ff.