New Apostolic Reformation Movement

Discussion in 'Cults & World Religions' started by Howard the Reformer, Sep 10, 2019.

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  1. Howard the Reformer

    Howard the Reformer Puritan Board Freshman

    Has anyone ran across this? According to information I have read this is the fastest growing "Christian" movement in the USA. Their theology believes in continuing revelation and their leaders are labeled as "prophets and and apostles". They are independent and "have attracted millions of followers with promises of direct access to God through signs and wonders."
    With the lack of knowledge of the Bible in the general population and the Bible not being taught in many churches today I can see where many can be mislead.
    While their theology is obviously flawed they seem to be building a cult like following and I was wondering if anyone is familiar with this group.
  2. Dachaser

    Dachaser Puritan Board Doctor

    Seems to be the old Kingdom Now/Domenion church being now relabled. They hold to the do called 5 fold offices, and modern revelations. Basically, they see book of Acts in present days how God still operates.
  3. Chad Hutson

    Chad Hutson Puritan Board Freshman

    Get a load of this: .
    Watch at least the first 4-5 minutes. It's sickening. They are demonic.
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  4. Chad Hutson

    Chad Hutson Puritan Board Freshman

    Excerpt from an email I received last year from a very devoted and faithful couple who are true servants of the Lord (the husband used to be in a Hindu cult).

    The NAR (New Apostolic Reformation) keeps changing its name – because they are trying to gain more favoritism within the church as a whole.
    We see people from many different denominations becoming part of this movement. Some openly; some not.

    This is not a movement of a new denomination. This is a movement of how they believe GOD will transform the world and usher in Christ’s kingdom.
    They believe that Super Apostles need to be in place and obtaining dominion over all segments of our society (business, government, media, arts and entertainment, education, family and religion) in order for Jesus to return. And a BIG way they do this is through conferences….and people flock to them.
    (Note how the above article talked about the conferences they hold. One of them is the Passion Conferences. Very popular. Attended by thousands. These conferences are put on by Louie Giglio, who is an “Apostle”.)

    Another BIG way the NAR movement is gaining in popularity is through music. (The Nationwide OutCry Tours is a big one.)
    Bethel Music, Jesus Culture, Christine Caine and Hillsong are all involved in the NAR.

    Bethel Music and Jesus Culture originate from Bethel Church in Redding, CA.
    Granted, some of the writers/singers may no longer attend Bethel church in Redding – but they are still affiliated through churches throughout the country.
    Bethel Church is where they were trained. Bethel’s “theology” is what they hold."
  5. Relztrah

    Relztrah Puritan Board Freshman

    This looks just like 80's charismania for people who weren't yet born in the 80's.
  6. RJ Spencer

    RJ Spencer Puritan Board Freshman

    I have a unique take on Historicism. I see the Roman Catholic church as the harlot of Babylon, the pontiff as anti-Christ, and the Charismatic movement as the second beast. Don't have time to get into the details now. But I see a striking resemblance between the mixing of Paganism with Christianity in both the Catholic church and the Charismatic one. The Beast made an image (pagan/Christianity mix) and the second beast is causing the whole world to chase after the same image by giving it life. ie a false Holy Spirit.
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  7. RPEphesian

    RPEphesian Puritan Board Junior

    Almost got sucked in. God mercifully prevented me.
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  8. Seeking_Thy_Kingdom

    Seeking_Thy_Kingdom Puritan Board Freshman

    I heard about this movement a few years ago and looked into it briefly.... I then read a female preacher, red flag no.1, who had a vision of flatulent angels and then promptly decided to look no further.
  9. JKL1647

    JKL1647 Puritan Board Freshman

    Justin Peters and a youtube account called BEZELT3 have given great information on the NAR. I highly recommend.
  10. alexandermsmith

    alexandermsmith Puritan Board Sophomore

    I know there's a lot wrong with that movement but I think an important point to notice is the use of women in the charismatic movement. The charismatics seem to have a lot of women leaders. I even just came across a video by Heidi Baker pushing gender equality in the church. The demonic nature of the movement and the raising up of women leaders is connected.
  11. alexandermsmith

    alexandermsmith Puritan Board Sophomore

    Passion conference is part of this? John Piper speaks at that every year. Just googled it (I've never paid any attention to it) and straight away what comes up is worrying. How can Piper have anything to do with it?
  12. Chad Hutson

    Chad Hutson Puritan Board Freshman

    That was an excerpt from an email. Do your own research to be certain. But I will say that it is getting harder to be involved with any large production without commingling with heretics.
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    alexandermsmith Puritan Board Sophomore

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  15. RJ Spencer

    RJ Spencer Puritan Board Freshman

    It is certainly connected. Women do tend to be more emotional than men, and that is all the movement is - empty emotionalism. The connection between Dispensationalism and Charismania cannot be ignored either. According to most accounts it was a girl that had the first vision of the pre-trib rapture. Then in 1901 it was a woman (Agnes Ozman) that had the first experience of the Pentecostal version of speaking in tongues. I often wonder what the charismatic movement would look like without dispensationalism. Also, would the movement be so reliant upon displays of emotion if women didn't have such a lofty role?

    I know I kind of jumped around... But I believe that in order to rationalize women being leaders in the church a person would have to accept a view of dispensationalism whereby they can ignore the Apostle Paul on the matter and claim a new dispensation of sorts.
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  16. bookslover

    bookslover Puritan Board Doctor

    As always, follow the money. That will usually be a clue as to what is really going on.
  17. jwithnell

    jwithnell Moderator Staff Member

    Without any official name, this sounds like the teaching and practice of any number of small churches in the southeast US. Little education certainly encourages the prophetic and emotional aspects. Who can argue when god has "told" you?
  18. Howard the Reformer

    Howard the Reformer Puritan Board Freshman

    Thanks to everyone who has responded. I have a friend who has become involved in this in the Houston area. He told me recently that he started a business and his pastor (a woman) prophesied that his business would succeed. I tried to reason with him (as he is a professing believer) how misguided this was and his response to me was the pastor received direct revelation from God and he believed her. Pray that I can help my misguided friend to see the truth of scripture.
  19. Chad Hutson

    Chad Hutson Puritan Board Freshman

    Brother, this error has also crept into churches not directly associated with NAR, and it really isn't a new phenomena. About 20 years ago I knew of a pastor in a non-denominational church who said the Lord told him to take a group of men and go to a certain man's house who was from a rough background and had missed a couple of services in a row. The group assembled after the service and drove in caravan to the man's house to confront him "by the word of the Lord," only to discover that he was on an extended vacation with his family. When told of this by a family member who attends the church I simply asked:"do you suppose God didn't know the man was on vacation?"
    Such absurdity passes off as legitimate Christian experience today.
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