Open Office???

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  1. DMcFadden

    DMcFadden Puritan Board Doctor

    Does anyone have any experience using Open Office? I love the idea that it is free and I hate the hegemony of Gates and Jobs. It looks like it reads and saves in Office format. What are the pros and cons?
  2. Southern Presbyterian

    Southern Presbyterian Puritan Board Doctor

    I use it at work. I think it is more intuitive than Word and does all the same things that MS does. It does read and even save in Word formats, but sometimes has trouble with formatting on pages that have lots of different elements. All-in-all, it's one great package of programs. Enjoy!
  3. Ezekiel3626

    Ezekiel3626 Puritan Board Freshman

    Which Microsoft components do you use primarily and to what extent? I ask because I use Open Office Write (Word) and Open Office Calc (Excel) mostly. I open slideshows or ppt. files with Open Office Impress (PowerPoint). I find the user interfaces to be similar, if not easier in the Open Office suite. In my experience, almost files are readable and backwards compatible. I say "almost" because there may have been exceptions that I have forgotten about. On my Windows machine, I do not use MS Office products, because it did not ship with them, and I do not want to purchase them. On my dual boot laptop, with Windows XP and Ubuntu Linux, I have both, but I do not remember the last time I used the MS components. I do not know if all the keyboard shortcuts and "tricks" can be used in Open Office, but for casual users, I am not aware of any drawbacks.


  4. Grymir

    Grymir Puritan Board Graduate

    Hmm. Let me see. I'll pull down my Barth books. hmm. It says that we can't know the answer to this question dogmatically or with certainty, because MS Office is wholly other, and unknowable, execept as IT choses to reveal ITself. But we have to experience the 'essence' in relationship. And if Open Office moves you, as it did the authors, then it becomes THE MS Office for you. :rofl:
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  5. DMcFadden

    DMcFadden Puritan Board Doctor

    Grymir, you are impossible! Barth again?!? Well, you are quite Barthian (despite yourself) in rejecting the analogia entis. Karl Barth famously remarked that the analogy of being (analogia entis) is both “the invention of antichrist” and the only good reason for not becoming a Roman Catholic. But, now David Bentley Hart, in his well received The Beauty of the Infinite, turns Barth on his head with his suggestion that the rejection of the analogia entis might in fact be “the invention of antichrist” and “the most compelling reason for not becoming a Protestant”! He contended that it is as subversive of the notion of a general and univocal category of being as of the equally ‘totalizing’ notion of ontological equivocity.” (pp. 241-42).

    Obviously your effort to know MS Office while rejecting the analogy of being between it and the lowly Open Office must be considered against the backdrop of other moves within contemporary theology. Open Office, in this event of becoming, participates in the beauty of MS Office's own infinity: “MS Office is the infinity of being in which every essence comes to be, the abyss of subsistent beauty into which every existence is outstretched.”

    Von Balthasar, following Barth's nemesis Erich Przywara, anticipated Hart with a dynamic and apophatic understanding of the analogia entis. And like Hart, von Balthasar insisted on the ontological dissimilarity between MS Office and Open Office. It is hardly coincidental that Gregory of Nyssa - with his theology of the infinite - is a major influence on both theologians.

    On the other hand, von Balthasar, hearing what his colleague and friend Barth was saying, tried to assimilate the analogia entis into the analogia fidei in order to preserve the freedom of the Open Office while maintaining the transcendence of MS Office.

    But I digress. What the devil are you talking about anyway? All I wanted to know was what were the pros and cons with using Open Office in place of MS Office, not to hear you rant again about Barth! :lol:
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  6. Grymir

    Grymir Puritan Board Graduate

    Why? Now that's a great question! I saw this thread that you started, an idea popped into my head. Something about MS Office being wholly other and unknowable. And since you know how much I love Barthian metaphors, I thought you and fellow readers would appreciate my post.

    But your post above is perhaps one of the best I've ever read here on PB or anywhere!! I'm gonna spend days following and learning from that. Thank you so much. See, if I hadn't said what I did, your brilliant post would not have followed. Aristolilian cause and effect. Sorry Hume.

    I really would use MS Office before I would use a clone. My 'relationship' knowledge of them is that they are not as reliable, and I looked into Open Office, and went with MS Office. I don't use all the bells and whistles, but the reliability and workability is what I went with.
  7. Semper Fidelis

    Semper Fidelis 2 Timothy 2:24-25 Staff Member

    Open Office is great. I installed it on my in-laws computer (2 non-techie people) and they use it for everything - including it's presentation software for Church overheads.
  8. Casey

    Casey Puritan Board Junior

    I use OO for everything. The only con I know of is that it sometimes will format things incorrectly when saving in one of Microsoft's proprietary formats. But on the plus side, you can save any document as a .pdf and bypass Microsoft's messy files altogether.
  9. Broadus

    Broadus Puritan Board Freshman

    I have Word 2003 but have used Open Office. I'm sure I'll switch someday to OO for my .doc file needs.

    That said, my word processor of choice is Nota Bene, a small academic company which puts out the best (in my opinion) software for research and writing. It's not cheap, but it's unsurpassed. Someone once said NB was WordPerfect on steroids. Been using it for seven or eight years and wrote my dissertation with it.

    I say that just to note that I use Word only when absolutely necessary and find OO a better option. I wouldn't buy Word, but your mileage may vary.

  10. sastark

    sastark Puritan Board Graduate

    Open Office is great. It's what I have loaded on my MacBook at home. I have yet to run into any downside using it.
  11. py3ak

    py3ak They're stalling and plotting against me Staff Member

    I like OpenOffice as well. It disappoints me that it doesn't come with the Thorndale font, unlike StarOffice.

    One thing to be aware of: as of a couple of days ago Open Office could not open the .docx format.
  12. JohnGill

    JohnGill Puritan Board Senior

    As a Mac user I use the Mac port of Open Office called NeoOffice.

    It does not use X11. Much nicer.
  13. skellam

    skellam Puritan Board Freshman

    Have you tried the new Beta version of OpenOffice for the Mac? It runs without X11 and integrates like any other Aqua application.
  14. JohnGill

    JohnGill Puritan Board Senior

    Didn't know there was one. I've gotten so used to NeoOffice I didn't look for anything else. I'll check it out.
  15. DMcFadden

    DMcFadden Puritan Board Doctor

    The web site says that version 3.0 is coming soon and takes care of that nicely and oh so much more. 3.0's new features, an early look - Ninja
  16. skellam

    skellam Puritan Board Freshman

    I never heard of NeoOffice. I rarely used OpenOffice on the Mac before this beta version came out because using X11 made it very slow and quirky. But, I've been using the new beta 3.0 for a few months and it works great.
  17. sastark

    sastark Puritan Board Graduate

    I've switched from NeoOffice to Open Office beta 3 on my MacBook and now prefer it over NeoOffice. It has been much more stable for me than NeoOffice.
  18. py3ak

    py3ak They're stalling and plotting against me Staff Member

    That's good to know, Dennis. Thanks!
  19. refbaptdude

    refbaptdude Puritan Board Freshman

    Does Open Office have something like MS Outlook?
  20. Seb

    Seb Puritan Board Junior

    No. But you could use something like Thunderbird or the Google email and calendar apps depending on your needs.

    Some of the developers that used to work on Lotus Notes have supposedly been working on an open source alternative to all the Outllook features, but I haven't seen anything about them in quite a while.
  21. Iconoclast

    Iconoclast Puritan Board Junior

    If you save a document on a flash drive using open office,and lend it to someone, it will not open unless they also have open office on their computer
  22. JohnGill

    JohnGill Puritan Board Senior

    I tried downloading it from their site, but their 3.0 link is just the old x11 open office. Could you post the link you downloaded from.

  23. sastark

    sastark Puritan Board Graduate

    Try this one: http://openoffice.bouncer.osuosl.or...macosxintelaqua&lang=en-US&version=3.0.0beta2
  24. sastark

    sastark Puritan Board Graduate

    That is only true if you save it as an Open Office format. If you save it as a Word document, anyone should be able to use it whether they have Open Office or not.
  25. DMcFadden

    DMcFadden Puritan Board Doctor

    3.0 does and should be out in a short time.
  26. Seb

    Seb Puritan Board Junior

    Is it just going to provide an email client or does have scheduling, calendars, tasks, etc?

    {Edit} Found the answer myself. It looks like they are integrating Mozilla's Thunderbird & etc. apps into Open Office by extensions.

  27. JohnGill

    JohnGill Puritan Board Senior

    Nope, finished downloading and installed it. It's 2.4 and still using x11.
  28. skellam

    skellam Puritan Board Freshman

    That's odd. I went ahead and downloaded again from that link to update to the latest beta and it worked fine. It's the Intel Mac Aqua version 3.0 Beta.
  29. JohnGill

    JohnGill Puritan Board Senior

    Duh! Me not wit it tonight...duh...

    Like a dimwit I forgot to delete the old one. So in the Applications menu which I have in grid mode i could only see the 2.4


    We really need :stupidmove: icon, or at least i do.
  30. Ron Henzel

    Ron Henzel Puritan Board Freshman

    If only Open Office had something comparable to Outlook! As I see it, that's its only flaw.
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