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Never mind, PR means Presumptive Regeneration.
Presumptive regeneration undermines human responsibility - the responsibility of children to keep the covenant, and not be profane people like Esau.
Presumptive regeneration undermines human responsibility - the responsibility of children to keep the covenant, and not be profane people like Esau.
What covenant are they/we supposed to keep Daniel? I am confused terribly by this statement..
Presumptive regeneration undermines human responsibility - the responsibility of children to keep the covenant, and not be profane people like Esau.
What covenant are they/we supposed to keep Daniel? I am confused terribly by this statement..
The covenant of grace...though they can only keep it if they are regenerate.
What covenant are they/we supposed to keep Daniel? I am confused terribly by this statement..
The covenant of grace...though they can only keep it if they are regenerate.
I never heard that we 'Keep' the COG. How does one do that?
The covenant of grace...though they can only keep it if they are regenerate.
I never heard that we 'Keep' the COG. How does one do that?
Covenant children - who are born into the covenant - keep the covenant by believing on Christ.
I never heard that we 'Keep' the COG. How does one do that?
Covenant children - who are born into the covenant - keep the covenant by believing on Christ.
All by the power of God right?
What do y'all make of the following?
Last paragraph of Dr. Rayburn's article -
"We do not practice paedocommunion here at Faith Presbyterian. We get as close to it as we can, the rules of our church being what they are, but a profession of faith is still required in the PCA for participation at the Lord’s Table. So, we take professions of faith much sooner than used to be the norm; and, happily, many, many other PCA churches are doing the same. And that is alright. If it takes some years, as it will, to convince the church that the practice of many centuries is in error, so be it. Our little children, having come to the table at five years of age or so, will not remember a time when they did not come, of a Lord’s Day, to eat the bread and drink the wine that Jesus Christ their Savior has provided for them by his body and blood. And in its own mysterious way, that Supper will, by the grace of God and the work of the Holy Spirit, do its work in nourishing their faith in Jesus Christ."
Their practice in this is for the elders to take the five membership questions from the BCO and translate them to a five-year-old (or whatever age) level. If the child answers correctly, they are admitted.
I think this is a workaround. Considering requirements such as self-examination and discerning the Lord's body in the supper, I do not see the wisdom in this.
God has promised to be the God of our children therefore we are to treat them as regenerate until they show signs that they are not.
God has promised to be the God of our children therefore we are to treat them as regenerate until they show signs that they are not.
In this statement there is a movement from promise to fulfilment, thereby leading to an unwarranted conclusion. The fact that God promises to do something for our children does not tie God to any point of time for the fulfilment of the promise. Hence we have no warrant to conclude that covenant children should be treated as regenerate. The most it could mean is that we are to treat them with the hope God will regenerate them in His time. Hence covenant theology is neither presumptive of regeneration or non-regeneration. We give the children the means, pray to God for His blessing, and look expectantly to see the fruits.