Here is an article about the pastor of a large church who now denies Hell.
ABC News: 'Heretic' Minister: Nobody Goes to Hell
ABC News: 'Heretic' Minister: Nobody Goes to Hell
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!!!!!! I did not know Stott held to that Heresy (and yes I think it a heresey) that saddens me, I liked a lot of Stott's older stuff, is this a newer position for Stott?Not too unusual these days. Even John R. W. Stott is an Annihilationist (as was my Sys Theo III prof in seminary 100 yrs ago - Colin Brown).
I thought Stott was a universalist. Am I mistaken?
Whatever Perg! I STAND by what I wrote...end of story!Heresy?
Is this REALLY heresy to be an annihilationism? I thought heresy was something that damned the soul.
There is a HUGE difference between gross error and heresy. Many annihilationists uphold the glory of Christ despite their other errors.
I think the word heretic gets thrown around too loosely. Not all error is damnedable error.
I am not sure denial of hell warrents it.
!!!!!! I did not know Stott held to that Heresy (and yes I think it a heresey) that saddens me, I liked a lot of Stott's older stuff, is this a newer position for Stott?Not too unusual these days. Even John R. W. Stott is an Annihilationist (as was my Sys Theo III prof in seminary 100 yrs ago - Colin Brown).
Annihilationism is indeed a gross error, but the position is defended by Scripture. Its proponents are not simply disregarding the teaching of Scripture. There's a "two views" book on the topic. In a nutshell, they interpret the "second death" of the lake of fire to be an actual death, and would say that the "eternal" punishment of hell is to be taken figuratively in the same way Sodom and Gomorrah are said to be burning with eternal fire.
I remember that, because of this issue, there were some protests at Westminster Seminary when Stott spoke there.
Annihilationism is indeed a gross error, but the position is defended by Scripture. Its proponents are not simply disregarding the teaching of Scripture. There's a "two views" book on the topic. In a nutshell, they interpret the "second death" of the lake of fire to be an actual death, and would say that the "eternal" punishment of hell is to be taken figuratively in the same way Sodom and Gomorrah are said to be burning with eternal fire.
I remember that, because of this issue, there were some protests at Westminster Seminary when Stott spoke there.
Don, I am attempting to reconcile your first 2 statements. Gross error, yet defended by scripture appears to be some sort of oxymoron...
Annihilationism is indeed a gross error, but the position is defended by Scripture. Its proponents are not simply disregarding the teaching of Scripture. There's a "two views" book on the topic. In a nutshell, they interpret the "second death" of the lake of fire to be an actual death, and would say that the "eternal" punishment of hell is to be taken figuratively in the same way Sodom and Gomorrah are said to be burning with eternal fire.
I remember that, because of this issue, there were some protests at Westminster Seminary when Stott spoke there.
Don, I am attempting to reconcile your first 2 statements. Gross error, yet defended by scripture appears to be some sort of oxymoron...
I assume it would be error in interpretation of Scripture. It is not as if Stott (forget Pearson for a moment) is denying that the Bible says these things. He is just interpreting the statements of Scripture in a manner that is not the traditional interpretation.
Amen!Saying that there is no hell is taking away (removing) from the Word of God who clearly says otherwise in many places.
Saying that there is no hell also presents God as a liar: God says there is a hell, the pastor says is not so. Obviously one is wrong and we do know who.
Not too unusual these days. Even John R. W. Stott is an Annihilationist (as was my Sys Theo III prof in seminary 100 yrs ago - Colin Brown).
Annihilationism is indeed a gross error, but the position is defended by Scripture. Its proponents are not simply disregarding the teaching of Scripture. There's a "two views" book on the topic. In a nutshell, they interpret the "second death" of the lake of fire to be an actual death, and would say that the "eternal" punishment of hell is to be taken figuratively in the same way Sodom and Gomorrah are said to be burning with eternal fire.
I remember that, because of this issue, there were some protests at Westminster Seminary when Stott spoke there.
Why is it that "they" always say that hell is a medieval construct? I've read this in other so-called news articles and seen it in several productions from the History Channel and Discovery Channel. What's the deal?
Thanks. Guess I had it a bit skewed.I thought Stott was a universalist. Am I mistaken?
Absolutely. He's no universalist, if by that you mean all people will eventually get saved.
Stott believes in conditional immortality: the reprobate will suffer for a period in hell and then eventually cease to exist. His position can be seen in the book Essentials, which is a dialogue Stott has with the liberal theologian David Edwards. An interesting read.
Like Pergumum, I don't believe we should call this "heresy"; I don't see it as calling salvation into question, even though I don't agree with it. We need to be very careful with that word.
Pergi...a denial of Hell...is in conflict with Holy-Writ. I have to note something, my Brother you have some GREAT posts here, you are witty and funny...lately, you seem very "in your face" to the people on the PB, you were not that way in many of your past threads and posts.....Brother, I hope if something is bothering you, you will PM someone or talk to your pastor...I just sence a lot of tension from you lately. Grace and Peace.
Not too unusual these days. Even John R. W. Stott is an Annihilationist (as was my Sys Theo III prof in seminary 100 yrs ago - Colin Brown).