Rev. Marshall, Did you see my reply to you above? I for one thought it was rather important, as I have seen a lack of clarification in presuppositionalists regarding when we are justified in holding beliefs. in my opinion this has arisen because Bahnsen wrongly said that atheists have to "account for" things rather than absolve contradictions within their worldview. As I said, it is not the case that people walking around have to account for their belief in laws of logic; they are already rationally justified in believing in laws of logic and need nothing more. But yet the apologist can point out a contradiction, namely that their belief in laws of logic contradicts some other part of their worldview. Now, I don't know if declaring the importance of my statements makes me narcissistic or not, but irrespective of that I would appreciate your understanding my point.