Scott
Puritan Board Graduate
I have criticized Roman Catholic views on prayers to saints in the past largely becasue the teaching relies on a the saints drawing on a tresury of merits. Here is a description of prayer to the saints from an Eastern Orthodox catechism:
The Catehcism gives this defense, which I find wholly without merit:
Scott
Any problems with this? I have some practical problems, such as there being no reason to believe that departed Christians hear us, prayer to the saints tends to overshadow prayers to God, prayers to saints become worship (adoration) of saints and the whole system seems polytheistic. As a matter of someone praying strictly in the sense that they are asking another Christian (who happens to be departed) to pray to God, is that any more sinful than asking a living Christian to similarly pray? That is the appoach Roman apologists often take, and they usually mute or ignore the Catholic doctrine of the treasury of merits in heaven. I have not seen this idea of treasury in Orthodoxy.263. What means of communion has the Church on earth with the Church in heaven?
The prayer of faith and love. The faithful who belong to the Church militant upon earth, in offering their prayers to God, call at the same time to their aid the saints who belong to the Church in heaven; and these, standing on the highest steps of approach to God, by their prayers and intercessions purify, strengthen, and offer before God the prayers of the faithful living upon earth, and by the will of God work graciously and beneficently upon them, either by invisible virtue, or by distinct apparitions, and in divers other ways.
The Catehcism gives this defense, which I find wholly without merit:
The 1 Chron. passage does not involve David praying to the deceased. He is praying to God and addressing God with the title of being the God of these men. It is one thing to say "I pray to the God of Peter and Paul such and such" in contrast to "I pray to you, Peter, to please ask God such and such." Those are two completely different things.264. On what is grounded the rule of the Church upon earth to invoke in prayer the saints of the Church in heaven?
On a holy tradition, the principle of which is to be seen also in holy Scripture. For instance, when the Prophet David cries out in prayer, O Lord God of Abraham, Isaac, and of Israel our fathers, he makes mention of saints in aid of his prayer, exactly as now the Orthodox Church calls upon Christ our true God, by the 486prayers of his most pure Mother and all his saints. See 1 Chron. xxix. 18.
Scott