Hi all-
In today's Reformed circles, and 300-500 years ago if it was different, what exactly is an error and what is a heresy?
To be more specific to a current situation and discussion I've been in, we here believe the word of faith movement is wrong when they say that it is what your mouth speaks into being that saves you and other people, heals you, prospers you, keeps you persevering to the end, etc. They think our words have the very authority and power of God's word, to do the things that orthodox Christians believe are only the work of the Holy Spirit. We can't speak salvation or spiritual fruit over people.
So are people beguiled by Joyce Meyer and Haganites under heresy, or merely in error? Are you saved if you are teaching heresy?
To broaden this, is Roman Catholicism an error or a heresy? Or both- Justification by works is heresy, but praying to dead saints is just an error? Don't you know catholics who seem to be saved.......can you be saved but under heresy?
Some people say heresy is what sends you to hell, and error just the things we believe that may not be true, but we are still saved. Would you all say Arminian doctrine is error but not heresy? How about dispensationalism?
Would it be correct to say that the leaders and teachers of false gospels like "word of faith" are heretics, but many of their followers are truly saved and in deception currently?
I guess to sum this up, how do you define heresy? Are heretics sometimes saved? What is error vs heresy?
Can you quote me how some famous dead Reformed dudes used the terms and understood them? The modern internet blogs are all over the map. I am more interested in old dead guys right now.....thanks.....
In today's Reformed circles, and 300-500 years ago if it was different, what exactly is an error and what is a heresy?
To be more specific to a current situation and discussion I've been in, we here believe the word of faith movement is wrong when they say that it is what your mouth speaks into being that saves you and other people, heals you, prospers you, keeps you persevering to the end, etc. They think our words have the very authority and power of God's word, to do the things that orthodox Christians believe are only the work of the Holy Spirit. We can't speak salvation or spiritual fruit over people.
So are people beguiled by Joyce Meyer and Haganites under heresy, or merely in error? Are you saved if you are teaching heresy?
To broaden this, is Roman Catholicism an error or a heresy? Or both- Justification by works is heresy, but praying to dead saints is just an error? Don't you know catholics who seem to be saved.......can you be saved but under heresy?
Some people say heresy is what sends you to hell, and error just the things we believe that may not be true, but we are still saved. Would you all say Arminian doctrine is error but not heresy? How about dispensationalism?
Would it be correct to say that the leaders and teachers of false gospels like "word of faith" are heretics, but many of their followers are truly saved and in deception currently?
I guess to sum this up, how do you define heresy? Are heretics sometimes saved? What is error vs heresy?
Can you quote me how some famous dead Reformed dudes used the terms and understood them? The modern internet blogs are all over the map. I am more interested in old dead guys right now.....thanks.....