Scott Bushey
Puritanboard Commissioner
Do babies need to have faith in Jesus though in order to have God save them?
Of course.
When u say, 'save', thats needs qualifying; read up on the order of salvation.
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Do babies need to have faith in Jesus though in order to have God save them?
They would need to have God grant them saving faith though still as you see it, correct?Of course.
When u say, 'save', thats needs qualifying; read up on the order of salvation.
David, knowing some of your background, which you have shared here, I have an idea that this will be another area where you may be surprised to learn that there are those whose views don't fit the typical, broadly evangelical theology. (I know this, because I, too, come out of a broadly evangelical, SBC background).Do babies need to have faith in Jesus though in order to have God save them?
David, knowing some of your background, which you have shared here, I have an idea that this will be another area where you may be surprised to learn that there are those whose views don't fit the typical, broadly evangelical theology. (I know this, because I, too, come out of a broadly evangelical, SBC background).
Thanks for sharing, as I do tend to see this as Hodgh did, as ehile infants are stillsinners in Adam, and thus guilty before God, the Lord also choose to elect all of them in Christ unto salvation.
I don't want to high-jack this thread, so I encourage you to start a new one if you wish to pursue this line of thought, but the common idea of an "age of accountability" is not biblical. Even babies are sinners, justly condemned apart from saving grace. Further, there is quite an historic debate in Reformed circles as to whether all infants dying in infancy are saved (and, therefore, elect - see Hodge) or whether only elect infants (and, to carry out the logical inference: not non-elect infants) dying in infancy are saved.
Again, if this is not an idea with which you are familiar, I would suggest you start a new thread exploring it. (If, on the other hand, my assumptions are unfounded, I apologize! In that case, disregard this post... and carry on.)
They would need to have God grant them saving faith though still as you see it, correct?
I do not hold that infants are not under the Fall if Adam and have Original Sin, and born as sinners, but so tend to see this as Hodge did, as God choosing to elect all of them into Christ, and to be saved by the atonement of the death of Jesus on their behalf. Where I might differ is that I see that as an act of God, and not infants purring saving faith in Jesus.
So the big question would be then does God choose to save all of them, or just the children of saved parents?In the cases of infants dying in infancy, it is God bringing both, the inward and external call unto regeneration and conversion.
This is not really germane to the OP - that is why I suggested that you start a new thread if that was an issue you wanted to explore.So the big question would be then does God choose to save all of them, or just the children of saved parents?
So the big question would be then does God choose to save all of them, or just the children of saved parents?