Slave owners, Calvin/Servetus, Luther/Anti-semite... How can we take these guys serious?

Discussion in 'Theological Forum' started by Stope, Jan 10, 2017.

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  1. BayouHuguenot

    BayouHuguenot Puritan Board Doctor

    Jason, you might want to read up on the differences between crime and sin, also the nature and extent of differing jurisdictions. That's assuming you are interested in discussion on thsi point, which I sort of suspect you aren't.
  2. MW

    MW Puritan Board Doctor

    The condition on which he was willing to die was if he were found to be guilty of doing something worthy of death. Martyrs are put to death unjustly. Evil-doers are put to death justly. And in order to show his innocence of the charges brought against him by the Jews (which included theological issues) he appealed to the judgment seat of Caesar, thereby confirming the competency of Caesar to make judgment on the issue. It is not mere rhetoric. It is part of a series of defences which forms an apologetic for the Christian faith.
  3. JimmyH

    JimmyH Puritan Board Junior

    It is a testimony to the patience and longsuffering of the moderators on this board that you are not a banned user for exactly what you've accused a brother of.
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  4. Ed Walsh

    Ed Walsh Puritan Board Sophomore

    I'm am really not very involved with this thread but I just thought of something Paul said. It goes like this:

    Edit: Oops! I just noticed that someone beat me to this subject.

    What was Paul being accused of by the Jews? Heresy!

    Acts 24:14
    But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:

    To this charge of heresy Paul agrees that death can be the penalty.

    Acts 25:11
    For if I be an offender, or have committed any thing worthy of death, I refuse not to die: but if there be none of these things whereof these accuse me, no man may deliver me unto them. I appeal unto Caesar.
  5. Ed Walsh

    Ed Walsh Puritan Board Sophomore

    Here’s a link to some very interesting reading on the views of not a few New England Christians on defending both tables of the Law, including various kinds of punishments for 1st table offenses:

    An Abstract of the Laws of New England,
    as They Are Now Established.
    printed in London in 1641.

    See particularly the following chapters:

    Of Crimes. And first, of such as deserve capital punishment, or cutting off from a man's people, whether by death or banishment.

    Of other Crimes less heinous, such as are to be punished with some corporal punishment or fine.
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