Stephen Sizer and Christian Zionism

[yeutter]

Seventeen years ago Stephen Sizer's book was discussed in this forum

Christian Zionism: Road-map to Armageddon?

By Stephen Sizer The term 'Zionism' was first coined in the late nineteenth century, and referred to the movement for the return of the Jewish people to an assured and secure homeland in Palestine. Ironically, this vision was largely nurtured and shaped by Christians long before it received...

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Rev. Dr. Stephen Sizer, a cleric in the Church of England, has written extensively on Zionism. Rev. Sizer has made it clear that the vast majority of Zionists are not Jewish at all, but are dispensationalist Christians. He has been a defender of covenant theology in the Church of England and a critic of Christian Zionism. For standing for the truth the Rev. Dr. Stephen Sizer now faces a disciplinary tribunal in the Diocese of Winchester, arising from a complaint made by the Board of Deputies of British Jews.

Bishop’s Disciplinary Tribunal for the Diocese of Winchester: The Revd Dr Stephen Sizer | Anglican Ink © 2022

 

[retroGRAD3]

Good grief. I was just talking the other day with a friend who is a dispensationalist and telling him the dangers of zionism. It's very sad to see people trapped in that system. You can point at all the areas in scripture that talk about "one people of God" and somehow they still come away that there are two and you are wrong.

 

[Nahum]

Good grief. I was just talking the other day with a friend who is a dispensationalist and telling him the dangers of zionism. It's very sad to see people trapped in that system. You can point at all the areas in scripture that talk about "one people of God" and somehow they still come away that there are two and you are wrong.

Here in Latin-America dispensationalism is extremely popular since most Churches are either Papist (The majority) or American-exported Pentecostal, non-denominational, etc. and are very aggressively dispensationalist. I have tried having this conversation with some friends who are very dispensational ("If you don't support Israel God will curse you" kind of people) but they simply won't listen. I've had a few people even say that Galatians 3 is wrong when it says the promises spoken into Abraham were spoken into his seed (not seeds) and that the seed is Christ, so if we are Christ's we are also Abraham's and heirs according to the promise. It's honestly discouraging to see so many people blindly following this kind of doctrine. I personally don't even have that much of a problem with people who are politically pro-Israel (Despite being 3rd generation Palestinian diaspora myself), but it angers me when they try to say that if you don't support Israel you're not a Christian or you're some sort of heretic.

 

[A.Joseph]

So the bottom line is the preservation of a far-left socialist state? Rename the movement Neo-Zio-Marx-ism and make sure you get your shot! Long Live Pfizerael.

I feel for the people but the state is just like any other corrupt state.

 

[Pilgrim]

I suppose Sizer is fine if you want to rub elbows with Ayatollahs and Holocaust deniers. Those looking to take on dispensationalism and Zionism should fish in better waters.

 

[Tom Hart]

I suppose Sizer is fine if you want to rub elbows with Ayatollahs and Holocaust deniers. Those looking to take on dispensationalism and Zionism should fish in better waters.

Are you able to comment more specifically on these allegations? As far as I can tell, this is exactly what Sizer is denying.

 

[Pilgrim]

Are you able to comment more specifically on these allegations? As far as I can tell, this is exactly what Sizer is denying.

There was perhaps some plausible deniability in the 2012 controversy. It seems to me that there is less from 2014-present. Why go to Tehran? Why post the 9/11 stuff? Whatever we think of the current CofE leadership, it appears that he made agreements and then went back on them when he had acknowledged that doing that would lead to the end of his ministry? I couldn't download his defense because it is a "potential security risk" according to my browser.

 

[Pilgrim]

So the bottom line is the preservation of a far-left socialist state? Rename the movement Neo-Zio-Marx-ism and make sure you get your shot! Long Live Pfizerael.

I feel for the people but the state is just like any other corrupt state.

What far-left socialist state? If you're referring to Israel, the socialism was left behind long ago. Netanyahu fundamentally transformed those policies. A corrupt state? Sure.

 

[A.Joseph]

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